2025 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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Mansell89
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He will improve but what were Red Bull doing putting a rookie who hadn’t even established himself as benchmark at the junior team, in the second seat against a beast like Max?

It was too soon for Gasly, too soon for Albon- both of whom are arguably more established drivers at this level than LL now.

Lawson needed time, and you don’t get that in the big team.

I just don’t know what they’re doing sometimes.

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Juzh
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How we ended second and nearly on pole i dont know.

AR3-GP
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This car has no business in 2nd of anything.
A lion must kill its prey.

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I thought Lawson looked decent in testing, up to speed pretty fast, now it seems he has a case of the shakes.

Max is metronomic.

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Wow by Max, and this time we looked good in s3. He was saving tyres in s1 and then attacking, we will see the tyre wear tomorrow. But a good day on the one side of the garage.
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pantherxxx
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Max is from another planet. Almost 2 seconds faster than his teammate's best lap.

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Juzh
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Lawson will be out after summer break anyway. Maybe tsunoda finally gets his chance.

venkyhere
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If we analyze the data :

Ferrari has improved by huge amounts in medium speed and high speed. The only car that was faster than Hamilton in 1-2-3 and the middle sector high speed section 7-8-9-10, was Norris on his aborted final lap. Norris was 0.25+ up on Hamilton before T11 started. Norris got greedy with 11-12-13 and spoiled his exit to the back straight, and inorder to compensate went super greedy with late braking into 14 hairpin, slid out ; and then went into the pits. Without the mistakes, Norris would've qualified with 0.30+ advantage

Max was 0.20+ down on Hamilton before the final T14 hairpin. However, he gained all of it back in this single corner (early braking and turning in, thus shortening the corner to have a super-straight-ish exit). 0.018 near as makes no difference, it's the same laptime for all practical purposes. But the RB21 is nowhere deserving of front row. It's poorer than McLaren and Ferrari through the long corners 1-2-3 and 11-12-13, both of whom have a much sharper front end. These long corners are the USP of this track, where all the laptime sits. Especially in race trim.

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venkyhere wrote:
21 Mar 2025, 11:39
If we analyze the data :

Ferrari has improved by huge amounts in medium speed and high speed. The only car that was faster than Hamilton in 1-2-3 and the middle sector high speed section 7-8-9-10, was Norris on his aborted final lap. Norris was 0.25+ up on Hamilton before T11 started. Norris got greedy with 11-12-13 and spoiled his exit to the back straight, and inorder to compensate went super greedy with late braking into 14 hairpin, slid out ; and then went into the pits. Without the mistakes, Norris would've qualified with 0.30+ advantage

Max was 0.20+ down on Hamilton before the final T14 hairpin. However, he gained all of it back in this single corner (early braking and turning in, thus shortening the corner to have a super-straight-ish exit). 0.018 near as makes no difference, it's the same laptime for all practical purposes. But the RB21 is nowhere deserving of front row. It's poorer than McLaren and Ferrari through the long corners 1-2-3 and 11-12-13, both of whom have a much sharper front end. These long corners are the USP of this track, where all the laptime sits. Especially in race trim.
Hamilton also lost a couple of tenths in the last corner for sure

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Maybe Max was protecting the tyres in S1 to not fall of the cliff in S3. Which happened back in Melbourne remember. I could even see some purple mini sectors by him at the end of the lap.

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Juzh wrote:
21 Mar 2025, 10:55
Lawson will be out after summer break anyway. Maybe tsunoda finally gets his chance.
He should already be on this car, the only reason he is not is probably him losing his cool with ricciardo and that near miss.

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Saw the onboard. Car not turning in the first few corners while Ferrari have a much smoother ride it seems (Karun's analysis). Max really did everything he can to get a great result. Ferrari easily have a 2 tenth advantage over us imo, Lewis made a bad mistake in T14 as well as every one else in T4 gains time to him there. Insanely good quali from Max.
Call a spade, a spade.

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Vettel165 wrote:
21 Mar 2025, 10:44
Wow by Max, and this time we looked good in s3. He was saving tyres in s1 and then attacking, we will see the tyre wear tomorrow. But a good day on the one side of the garage, was watching Max onboard lap, the car was quite stable.
Maybe also a bit more tyre saving in the setup compared to Melbourne. This track was very good for Red Bull last year so I'm not that surprised. Hopefully there's a bit more to come from dialling in the setup further in the coming race weekends. Otherwise it's waiting for the updates to bring something significant.

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Alexf1 wrote:
21 Mar 2025, 12:34
Vettel165 wrote:
21 Mar 2025, 10:44
Wow by Max, and this time we looked good in s3. He was saving tyres in s1 and then attacking, we will see the tyre wear tomorrow. But a good day on the one side of the garage, was watching Max onboard lap, the car was quite stable.
Maybe also a bit more tyre saving in the setup compared to Melbourne. This track was very good for Red Bull last year so I'm not that surprised. Hopefully there's a bit more to come from dialling in the setup further in the coming race weekends. Otherwise it's waiting for the updates to bring something significant.
We're lacking in pure performance compared to Ferrari/McLaren. Max's insane consistency is what keeps us at the front. But with 2-3 tenths of performance & changes to improve tyre wear we could fight for wins most weekends

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Lawson is really in trouble and he needs to bounce back soon to avoid Netflix making an episode out of him for next season.