2016 McLaren F1 Team - Honda

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GoranF1
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http://www.cope.es/player/fernando-alon ... &activo=10

maybe someone whit knowledge of Spanish can translate this audio for us...?
"I have no idols. I admire work, dedication & competence."

bill shoe
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Saddest headline of the year, yes it wins even though it's only March:

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.ph ... -in-top-10

McLaren is not offering the world anything unique in terms of Formula 1 performance or road car performance. I think McLaren is on an inevitable path to insolvency and winding-up. McLaren is now a "gray" company with no plausible long-term financial success but still enough reputation and cash to carry on for a while. Trying to be more realistic than grumpy, sorry if it comes off as the latter. I'll say the over/under on winding up is 4 years.

zeph
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I have had similar thoughts. They could end up like Aston Martin or Lotus. Sell a handful of exotics on a reputation forged in days past.

Let's hope it isn't so. Alonso needs another WDC.

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Even Ferrari spent 20 seasons in a row without a driver's title. If you take today's grid, only Red Bull and Mercedes have more recent titles than McLaren.
Have they gone for a very bold, maybe desperate approach? Yes. Has it gone well? So far, not at all. But I rather see them risking something new and maybe enduring a season as a joke in 9th on constructor's standings than seeing Williams, which historically is the third best team on the grid, but for the past few years has gone from terrible performances to accepting being a medium team with no chances at a world title.

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bill shoe wrote:McLaren is not offering the world anything unique...
Not all is lost. McLaren is undoubtedly poised to assume a leadership position within the burgeoning thought leadership market with its brand new Thought Leadership Centre.

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Either that or they're ready to start hosting intergalactic summits.

bill shoe
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bhall II wrote:Not all is lost. McLaren is undoubtedly poised to assume a leadership position within the burgeoning thought leadership market with its brand new Thought Leadership Centre.

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:lol: :lol: . Didn't think you were serious at first.

I'm too f-ing negative right now. I'll leave McLaren to their glories. And thoughts.

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McG
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What complete drivel. In one post you have shown that you obviously know very little about McLaren as a Formula 1 team, GT race car team, supercar manufacturer or any of their non racing companies. It also sounds like you don't know much about how Formula 1 or other sports work.

Go take your negative nonsense elsewhere.

bill shoe wrote:Saddest headline of the year, yes it wins even though it's only March:

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.ph ... -in-top-10

McLaren is not offering the world anything unique in terms of Formula 1 performance or road car performance. I think McLaren is on an inevitable path to insolvency and winding-up. McLaren is now a "gray" company with no plausible long-term financial success but still enough reputation and cash to carry on for a while. Trying to be more realistic than grumpy, sorry if it comes off as the latter. I'll say the over/under on winding up is 4 years.
Finally, everyone knows that Red Bull is a joke and Max Verstappen is overrated.

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GoranF1 wrote:http://www.cope.es/player/fernando-alon ... &activo=10

maybe someone whit knowledge of Spanish can translate this audio for us...?
24 hs after the accident he says he is in one piece and almost recovered. With some body pain. The accident felt like being in a giant washing machine. He would be on the bike in two or three days exercising. No marks or important hematomas

Jokes with who should pay the food. Having lunch with journalists.

Asked if he recalls details of the accident he says he remembers everything. When starting the overtake perhaps doesn't have the best precision with the braking point.

After the touch sees he lost a wheel and realizes out of control. Hits the left wall. Looks to the far wall which is far yet, but coming fast. Thought 'this is going to be a hard one'. Let's don't get damage. When the car started to roll lost orientation. When the car stopped saw a hole and decided to get out. 'even if the car keeps moving'. He thought the car would continue moving. Also because he sees fluids.

Hoping nothing hits his head. Shrinks inside the cockpit.

Thankful that Esteban is also OK.

After that they went with the Marshalls to debrief the accident from every camera available. Discussing what can be made to avoid further accidents

Praises the crash tests and safety design.

Next time racing will feel more alive than ever. Enjoying to be able to drive again.

Describes survival capsule design

Talks that accidents make motorsports different from other popular sports

The car goes well. Still improvement needed. Saw the car a little more competitive than expected from Barcelona. More optimistic than after the test.

Talks about his Skype call with his family.

In good terms with Ron Dennis. The team more human than 2007/2008 and also younger. Feels they have the capabilities to improve fast.

How many gs? Needed a medical check because the alarm went on. Thinks he heard from the doctor 44 gs. That from the first impact then around 20 the next two.

Sorry for my English. Would be great if you correct it. Up to now I've been a lurker here

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F1Arg wrote:
GoranF1 wrote:http://www.cope.es/player/fernando-alon ... &activo=10

maybe someone whit knowledge of Spanish can translate this audio for us...?
24 hs after the accident he says he is in one piece and almost recovered. With some body pain. The accident felt like being in a giant washing machine. He would be on the bike in two or three days exercising. No marks or important hematomas

Jokes with who should pay the food. Having lunch with journalists.

Asked if he recalls details of the accident he says he remembers everything. When starting the overtake perhaps doesn't have the best precision with the braking point.

After the touch sees he lost a wheel and realizes out of control. Hits the left wall. Looks to the far wall which is far yet, but coming fast. Thought 'this is going to be a hard one'. Let's don't get damage. When the car started to roll lost orientation. When the car stopped saw a hole and decided to get out. 'even if the car keeps moving'. He thought the car would continue moving. Also because he sees fluids.

Hoping nothing hits his head. Shrinks inside the cockpit.

Thankful that Esteban is also OK.

After that they went with the Marshalls to debrief the accident from every camera available. Discussing what can be made to avoid further accidents

Praises the crash tests and safety design.

Next time racing will feel more alive than ever. Enjoying to be able to drive again.

Describes survival capsule design

Talks that accidents make motorsports different from other popular sports

The car goes well. Still improvement needed. Saw the car a little more competitive than expected from Barcelona. More optimistic than after the test.

Talks about his Skype call with his family.

In good terms with Ron Dennis. The team more human than 2007/2008 and also younger. Feels they have the capabilities to improve fast.

How many gs? Needed a medical check because the alarm went on. Thinks he heard from the doctor 44 gs. That from the first impact then around 20 the next two.

Sorry for my English. Would be great if you correct it. Up to now I've been a lurker here
Your English reads absolutely fine to me!!

Thanks for the translation :-)
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Jef Patat
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+1 thanks for the effort! Don't apologize for your English, it's way better than our Spanish ;-)
Over here language is only a means of communication, not a goal.

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"Rapid Relief" is just what Alonso need after Sunday :lol: :lol: :lol:

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F1Arg wrote:
GoranF1 wrote:http://www.cope.es/player/fernando-alon ... &activo=10

maybe someone whit knowledge of Spanish can translate this audio for us...?
24 hs after the accident he says he is in one piece and almost recovered. With some body pain. The accident felt like being in a giant washing machine. He would be on the bike in two or three days exercising. No marks or important hematomas

Jokes with who should pay the food. Having lunch with journalists.

Asked if he recalls details of the accident he says he remembers everything. When starting the overtake perhaps doesn't have the best precision with the braking point.

After the touch sees he lost a wheel and realizes out of control. Hits the left wall. Looks to the far wall which is far yet, but coming fast. Thought 'this is going to be a hard one'. Let's don't get damage. When the car started to roll lost orientation. When the car stopped saw a hole and decided to get out. 'even if the car keeps moving'. He thought the car would continue moving. Also because he sees fluids.

Hoping nothing hits his head. Shrinks inside the cockpit.

Thankful that Esteban is also OK.

After that they went with the Marshalls to debrief the accident from every camera available. Discussing what can be made to avoid further accidents

Praises the crash tests and safety design.

Next time racing will feel more alive than ever. Enjoying to be able to drive again.

Describes survival capsule design

Talks that accidents make motorsports different from other popular sports

The car goes well. Still improvement needed. Saw the car a little more competitive than expected from Barcelona. More optimistic than after the test.

Talks about his Skype call with his family.

In good terms with Ron Dennis. The team more human than 2007/2008 and also younger. Feels they have the capabilities to improve fast.

How many gs? Needed a medical check because the alarm went on. Thinks he heard from the doctor 44 gs. That from the first impact then around 20 the next two.

Sorry for my English. Would be great if you correct it. Up to now I've been a lurker here
Thank you very much mate! ;)
"I have no idols. I admire work, dedication & competence."

Pany
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FIRST THING TO DO, in order to relaunch this team is to send home E. Boullier. I'm really fed-up with conceptual and theoretical word this guy is telling around to convince us about their future. Rond Dennis is enough for it. Please hire more engineers and invest the maximum in diversified experiments, the more u can.
Concerning Honda, please put more researcher (Young and old ones), the more u can NOW. Take them also for the moment from other sectors and Department. Is super-urgent. You are about to loose the actual recovering battle with Renault. If by mid-season you don't race with a reliable Engine and with performance 40 HP down to Ferrari or Mercedes, you will be out also for next year, hence for the whole F1 future with Honda
YOU CAN DO IT

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FW17
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Why Honda has not open a tech center in UK so two teams can work on the programme?

They have one in the US for there Indy car programme

Sasha
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HondaF1 wished there was a Honda in the back of the Red Bull or other team at the moment(really need more data).