Sure they could get a bit more performance from the setup but the more pressing matter currently is the bouncing - the only setup change that helps solve that; raising the floor; only makes the car slower.
And they didn't bring all of the Silverstone package to Spain, so they're kind of running a half baked car right now. Makes sense why it's hard to get the set-up right.
I think that's from FridayAR3-GP wrote: ↑29 Jun 2024, 22:07yooogurt wrote: ↑29 Jun 2024, 17:16With Charles magic i think p2 was possible, but unlucky today, car with bouncing rly hard to drive.SoulPancake13 wrote: ↑29 Jun 2024, 17:08He was going for P3, I don't blame him given the car and where it is.https://formu1a.uno/en/ferrari-sf-24-li ... n-austria/“I had a good qualifying. I managed to do three very clean laps,” said Sainz after qualifying.
Considering Carlos said it was very tricky and Leclerc made a couple of mistakes, we can conclude that the car is a handful in current formThe changes we made between Sprint and Qualifying made the car faster but also a little more difficult to drive; now we are a little more at the limit, so much so that it was very complicated to put together a lap" - said Carlos Sainz
the latest package (not the one introduced at Imola) has not performed as well as the Maranello team's engineers expected, so much so that it is still a tenth and a half away from being seen on the track, practically the entire value of the Spanish novelties (they were worth 0.18 seconds at Montmelo). Something Sainz himself confirmed, "The novelties work in all the areas where we don't have the bouncing, the problem is that what we gain in those points, we lose in others because of the bouncing." The load at low speeds has been increased, with the SF-24 thus improving in one of the most deficient areas of the first part of the season as well as one of the objectives of the second season package, but it is now paying heavily for the introduction of the bouncing through the new bottom.
Thanks for your link, I get the picture of the bouncing at high speed which reverses the gains at low speeds. Overall though, I’m not sure about all these possible gains of 0.5 or 0.6s will be achieved with these two previous upgrades and the gains other teams have made. It depends so much on the, situation, the type of track and it’s probably just a most ideal number. It’s normal that an upgrade has trade offs too btw, it’s about the net result.yooogurt wrote: ↑30 Jun 2024, 11:38the latest package (not the one introduced at Imola) has not performed as well as the Maranello team's engineers expected, so much so that it is still a tenth and a half away from being seen on the track, practically the entire value of the Spanish novelties (they were worth 0.18 seconds at Montmelo). Something Sainz himself confirmed, "The novelties work in all the areas where we don't have the bouncing, the problem is that what we gain in those points, we lose in others because of the bouncing." The load at low speeds has been increased, with the SF-24 thus improving in one of the most deficient areas of the first part of the season as well as one of the objectives of the second season package, but it is now paying heavily for the introduction of the bouncing through the new bottom.
https://formu1a.uno/it/sainz-conferma-i ... to-spagna/
It would depend on the calculations of how much to gain in slow corners and lose in fast corners, which would be more favorable. But according to insides and interviews of the same Sainz, the team is trying to fix the suspension to Silver that would fix the bouncing, if they can, then obviously to roll back to the Imola spec is not worth it.hape wrote: ↑30 Jun 2024, 12:19Thanks for your link, I get the picture of the bouncing at high speed which reverses the gains at low speeds. Overall though, I’m not sure about all these possible gains of 0.5 or 0.6s will be achieved with these two previous upgrades and the gains other teams have made. It depends so much on the, situation, the type of track and it’s probably just a most ideal number. It’s normal that an upgrade has trade offs too btw, it’s about the net result.
The pre imola car should be very fast here too because of the high track temperatures yesterday, it wouldn’t struggle with its biggest problem, the tyre heating.
I would still try the pre imola setup for the high speed corners of Silverstone on one car in FP1 and with the other car the latest available updates to see if bouncing can be reduced. If they don’t achieve significant gains on the bouncing they will be sitting ducks at high speeds of Silverstone.
