Korean GP 2010 - Yeongam

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WhiteBlue wrote:
Tomba wrote:Anyway, also don't forget that Alonso is running short of engines and might also still get a DNF somewhere in the next two races...
I hope that fate will deal Alonso an equalizer. Unfortunately that is not likely to help Vettel as much as it will Webber. I still can't believe how much luck Webber and Alonso keep having. Webber effs up and lady luck craps over his team mate to keep him ahead in the championship and force the team to possibly issue team orders next time.
Alonso had his deal of engine problems already this season, and hoping for someone to have a mechanical problem so that "fate can deal with it" it just nonsense and hardly showing any good fanship.

I feel for Vettel as well, but it would be good if you could also see the good of any other driver when they perform well.
FrukostScones wrote:Vettel showed his qualities today! He, HAM, ALO and ROS are the best of the best. Maybe KUB too, but he never had a strong teammate.
Please keep in mind Rosberg and Schumacher did so well because their teams judged the situation better and extensively changed front suspension settings while the race was halted for 45 minutes. Both the Mercedes GP cars were on fire from lap 17 on (when it was still most wet).

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928S wrote:Revs kill engines, how many revs is he using? I am just pointing out and not that strongly that even last year the same story held true.
All the engines are limited to 18k and lifed for that so shouldnt be an issue. On the ebd/engine map choice. That is a team decision, I agree that may have an effect but that is a team decision not how he actually drives the car. I still dont but it being down to him.

Still pleased we didnt have to see that finger! Its bad enough just on Saturdays!

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ringo wrote:I said from the beginning this thing will boil down to Hamilton Alonso and that Alonso is not to be taken lightly. He has a good car and lots of experience.
Just for today's race, i'd put him in the class of a Great driver. 3WDC would be well deserved.
Hamilton and Alonso,clearly the best on the grid, with Vettel as well. His confidence in the wet in that redbull was astounding. Too bad the engine went.

These drivers are master class. Button showed his true colours. He looked worse than heiki in the last set of races. Seems he can't take championship pressure even when he's not leading. His adaptability and skill is also questionable.
Embarassing race for him for a WC.

Any way let's see a ferrari engine go in brazil to spice things up. :mrgreen:
My only post race post:
Word up bro.
Fred The Boss and Vettel are a cut above.
Congrats to Fred he did a great job of conserving his tyres and was very confident in the wet.
There is not a fag paper between him, and The Boss talent wise. Vettel is there too!
Those who believe in telekinetics raise my hand

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Rain played into Alonso's hands regarding his engine situation. Assuming this was his Monza engine, he should easily be able to do another race on it.

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WhiteBlue wrote:Webber out. He needs a penalty for taking out Rosberg. He could have breaked and avoided coming go back onto the track.
He was a passenger.

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Verry pissed off about BBC1 and BBC2 switch. I had the intention that id put the race on my Sky+ box and watch it from arround 8AM as my work shedule is crazy this weekend, and have it done and dusted by the time the local Football rivalry takes place, as i want to watch that as well before i start work. Im not happy as im now gonna have to find a decent download to get the last 30 or so mins of the race watched.

Not happy, who wants to watch Andrew Marr or some religious and moral queasions show???
Gerhard Berger wrote:Rain played into Alonso's hands regarding his engine situation. Assuming this was his Monza engine, he should easily be able to do another race on it.
That engine will do Abu Dhabi. But alonso is thin on milage. He is asking this engine and the engine that will do Brazil to do between 2500km and 3000km.

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Gerhard Berger wrote:Rain played into Alonso's hands regarding his engine situation. Assuming this was his Monza engine, he should easily be able to do another race on it.
but surely isn't a wet race bad for the engine? with all that wheel spin, sure in a dry race, they wud be alot more on the throttle, but with all that wheel spin and throttle feathering, would that not harm the engine more?

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chapmanlung wrote:
Gerhard Berger wrote:Rain played into Alonso's hands regarding his engine situation. Assuming this was his Monza engine, he should easily be able to do another race on it.
but surely isn't a wet race bad for the engine? with all that wheel spin, sure in a dry race, they wud be alot more on the throttle, but with all that wheel spin and throttle feathering, would that not harm the engine more?
That's a fair point, but the top speed they reach is lower, and they did quite alot of laps of this race behind the safety car, so the engine was not stressed at all then. I think overall, the engine didn't suffer as badly today as it would have done in a normal dry race.

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I´m a bit surprised that one would not count race strategy (changing car setup dramatically in circumstances allowing to do so) count towards racecraft...If Rosberg and Schumacher make use of regs wereas others are reluctant to change from their dry settings why should that not count towards racecraft and ability?

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raymondu999 wrote:
Ray wrote:Poor Vettel. Another race win he got robbed of. Dammit. Mistakes are one thing, but this is heartbreaking.
+1. He took it excellent though. Still very cheery afterwards. It couldn't have blown in Spa instead? :cry:

It's an amazing statistic, and one I don't like. Every time Vettel is on track to lead the championship, something goes boom. Bahrain, Australia, Turkey (If he had pulled it off he would've lead the championship), Hungary. And now Korea. He has been a class act since Monza, nursing a set of softs for 52 laps, then pressuring alonso all the way in Singapore, an emphatic Suzuka victory, and it was about to be a pole-to-flag in Korea, or maybe even his first ever Grand Chelem. :cry:

Any news on what happened to Seb's engine? Kubi's engine held up nicely through to the end... or is it some aggressive gearing that has led them to hit the limiter often between turns 2 and 3?
Grand Chelem?
Isn't Grand Slam a tennis thing?
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WhiteBlue wrote:Webber out. He needs a penalty for taking out Rosberg. He could have breaked and avoided coming go back onto the track.
He was a passenger.
At first I thought Webber neglected to step on the brakes as he should, but on second viewing it seems the track has a small downwards slope (to the left) there which sucked him and also his front suspension was broken and the car seemed to ride partly on "metal". Also maybe he wanted to slide all the way out to the left, instead of stopping in the middle of the track, which is what would happen maybe if he stepped on the brakes. :|
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rl12WLsuCbI
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I think it's poor form how Vet tried to have the race stopped sooner, due to 'bad light' while he was setting faster and faster laps. I'd put money on it that they suspected the engine would fail immanently.

Well done to the stewards to let the race run to completion, I think the way in which they judge racing incidents has improved enormously.
Dont dream it, do it.

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Jenson was mentioned the light, and whether the race stopped or carried on for him would have made no difference. He was out of it.

Dont put Vettels complaints 100% down to wanting to win. Okay, it was probably part of it but only when we saw the podium was there a true representation of the light conditions.

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This was the worst GP I've ever seen. I'm glad of the results, don't get me wrong. But I live in NYC and I was up at 1:40 am to watch the race, and by 5am there was nothing close to racing in Korea. I see this race as a massive FAIL.

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Just away to watch the race but having seen the results, the championship now looks like it'll be Alonso's to loose and Webber's to win. Alonso and Ferrari seem to have a chrage on at the moment. Gutted that Vettel is out of it but Red Bull have to back one driver soon.

Hamilton has an outside chance but only if Webber and Alonso don't score in the next race. Good results for Massa and Schumacher though. Both weel deserved.

Time to watch the carnage :mrgreen:

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:lol: Hahahahaha!!!

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