2016 McLaren F1 Team - Honda

[GoranF1]

i read on "other" big forum, that Honda will have a proper Q-mode in BAH, but i have no idea where that came from!?

[CjC]

http://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/150 ... alia-crash

The engine used by ALO in the first race can not be saved, as it was too damaged along its all supporting components.

20 races to go with 4 engines for ALO.

This rule is soo stupid and I said in another forums. If an PU is scrapped due to a accident like this why the driver needs to pay with a penalty for such an accident. I bet no one wants to be involved in something like that with the purpose of change their PU. I think instead the FIA needs to change this rule and if for one reason or another an accident like this or similar happens the PU needs to be change for safety purposes without a penalty.

So true, it's not like you could gain an advantage by flipping, rolling and destroying a car to get an extra PU for the season. Drivers are competitive animals but they won't endanger themselves, each other, the marshals nor the fans.

Drivers should be allowed a new PU if they have an extreme accident and no part from the 'destroyed PU' should be used.

To boycott races because they aren't happy with the rules is redicilous really, they are under contract so if they did have a boycott the financial repo cushions would be massive i'd imagine.

[diffuser]

Let's say I support your idea to give Fred a new PU. Fernando accident happened after the 1st race with the PU. If you give him a free PU in this instance....What do you give someone who looses his PU after the 4th race ?

What do you do after the 12th race, when the 5 separate components of the PU are at different levels of usage?
What happens when the driver is at fault? is it different than when he's not at fault?

I think you end up introducing a ton of complexity to avoid grid penalties. A grid penalty that you can take at a track like Canada (where you can take 2 PUs) start at the back and be passed half the grid before the end of the first lap.

[maguetox]

Let's say I support your idea to give Fred a new PU. Fernando accident happened after the 1st race with the PU. If you give him a free PU in this instance....What do you give someone who looses his PU after the 4th race ?

What do you do after the 12th race, when the 5 separate components of the PU are at different levels of usage?
What happens when the driver is at fault? is it different than when he's not at fault?

I think you end up introducing a ton of complexity to avoid grid penalties. A grid penalty that you can take at a track like Canada (where you can take 2 PUs) start at the back and be passed half the grid before the end of the first lap.

If something like this happens, I will allow to use the whole PU brand new with all the components and auxiliaries. What I do is that this new unit can only be use for the remaining races that the old PU was suppose to be racing until their 5th GP. Taking Fred example, the replacement unit needs to be good for the next 4 races, after these races that unit will not be allowed to be use anymore on qualys or races.

[basti313]

Let's say I support your idea to give Fred a new PU. Fernando accident happened after the 1st race with the PU. If you give him a free PU in this instance....What do you give someone who looses his PU after the 4th race ?

What do you do after the 12th race, when the 5 separate components of the PU are at different levels of usage?
What happens when the driver is at fault? is it different than when he's not at fault?

I think you end up introducing a ton of complexity to avoid grid penalties. A grid penalty that you can take at a track like Canada (where you can take 2 PUs) start at the back and be passed half the grid before the end of the first lap.

If something like this happens, I will allow to use the whole PU brand new with all the components and auxiliaries. What I do is that this new unit can only be use for the remaining races that the old PU was suppose to be racing until their 5th GP. Taking Fred example, the replacement unit needs to be good for the next 4 races, after these races that unit will not be allowed to be use anymore on qualys or races.

This is a Honda PU. According to the numbers from last season you can run it only for 2 races. If you force them to detune it so much, that they can run the extra PU for 4 races, that is more burden.

[namao]

i read on "other" big forum, that Honda will have a proper Q-mode in BAH, but i have no idea where that came from!?

Do you have the link?

[Thunder]

i read on "other" big forum, that Honda will have a proper Q-mode in BAH, but i have no idea where that came from!?

There was an Interview, with Jusuke Hasegawa i think, that mentioned Honda have not tested a more aggressive Engine Mode (which was interpreted to be a Quali Mode) in Australia due to reliability Concerns. So the Folks on the Autosport Forum (assuming that's the Forum you are talking about) hope Honda will Introduce it in Bahrain. Nothing more imho. We'll see what happens.

[GoranF1]

i read on "other" big forum, that Honda will have a proper Q-mode in BAH, but i have no idea where that came from!?

There was an Interview, with Jusuke Hasegawa i think, that mentioned Honda have not tested a more aggressive Engine Mode (which was interpreted to be a Quali Mode) in Australia due to reliability Concerns. So the Folks on the Autosport Forum (assuming that's the Forum you are talking about) hope Honda will Introduce it in Bahrain. Nothing more imho. We'll see what happens.

yes, i read the interview of Hasegawa that Murramassa posted and i read that words but i didnt get the impression he was refering to Q mode.

[Thunder]

I didn't point it at a deliberate Q Mode too but there is a possibility it is and that's all the Internet needs. ^^

Also:
First Pictures from Bahrain. Confirmed, Fernando has a Car.

[taperoo2k]

I believe Alonso has to pass an FIA medical test tomorrow to decide if he's able to
race or not. So he may have a car, but might have to sit around and watch somebody else drive it.

[Andres125sx]

First Pictures from Bahrain. Confirmed, Fernando has a Car.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ceyix5HWQAA4JnT.jpg

Or at least most parts of a car!

[nevill3]

Looks like the same amount of car he had at the end of the last race, a chassis, no wheels no covers no wings......

[Thunder]

Well, that's bad.
https://twitter.com/andrewbensonf1/stat ... 4302211072 https://twitter.com/andrewbensonf1/stat ... 1256486912

Guess it's Stoffel's turn.

[lio007]

ALO obviously out for this GP:


Edit: oh, Thunders was a bit quicker

[Thunder]

https://twitter.com/McLarenF1/status/715487226272948224 Sad for Fernando but a great Chance for Stoffel.