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Marko giving Lawson 3 races. Lucky for Lawson that he actually knows Suzuka. It's BS, Lawson will have a better car than Yuki at his own home soil. It won't be a warm reception for Lawson or for most of Red Bull. Sure, vcarb02 may be more tamable than rb21, but I don't see Lawson screwing up in Japan. I'm sure Yuki will just be unlucky as usual.
Yuki thoroughly deserved it. But I don't think Red Bull are backing out of Lawson for the whole of this season. They would wait to see how Lindblad would be coming up in F2. In Melbourne, that guy was nowhere. Yuki should look around other teams for 2026.
Ok and what was the pole tap? 0.018. Basic math puts Max on pole. Am i wrong?
Why is it so hard for objectivy here?
By accepting your logic, Hamilton made an even bigger mistake in the last turn so go and analyze that as well.
After that you can conclude that Max didn't lost the pole in turn 1-2-3, but only seemed to have a chance, because everyone around him made even greater mistakes.(both Ferraris and McLarens) He was never going to get even first row if everyone nails his lap.
That's some objectivity for you.
Lawson is really in trouble and he needs to bounce back soon to avoid Netflix making an episode out of him for next season.
Think it's going to be very tough for him to turn it around in this car. If you can't deal with an instable rear end you've got no place at Red Bull. It's just the way they make fast cars. A top class professional driver in F1 can drive fast with whatever he's given. They must every year. It's a constructors championship, not a spec series where the chassis is supposed to be 1 size fits all.
Rear instability hasn't been the main issue for 4 years, since the previous regs. It's understeer that is the issue. In general these current cars suffer more from understeer than oversteer, and RB is no exception. You could see on Lawson's lap, he almost understeered off the track in that section and then tried to accelerate on the kerb.
Lawson is really in trouble and he needs to bounce back soon to avoid Netflix making an episode out of him for next season.
Think it's going to be very tough for him to turn it around in this car. If you can't deal with an instable rear end you've got no place at Red Bull. It's just the way they make fast cars. A top class professional driver in F1 can drive fast with whatever he's given. They must every year. It's a constructors championship, not a spec series where the chassis is supposed to be 1 size fits all.
Rear instability hasn't been the main issue for 4 years, since the previous regs. It's understeer that is the issue. In general these current cars suffer more from understeer than oversteer, and RB is no exception. You could see on Lawson's lap, he almost understeered off the track in that section and then tried to accelerate on the kerb.
Agree with this, came in there like he was driving a boat.
Quite a few of the crashes in Australia were similar origin too. Ultimately getting too much lock on ..... until it finally grips, then the rear torque application overwhelmed that initial phase. Only then to shut throttle in those case and produce a "high side " in Motogp terms, which fires the car in opposite direction, again, and into barrier.
Its starts though, with the driver not recognising/interpreting the understeer phase. Most interaction there after getting further and further behind the ball.
Yeah, I just don't see the rear stepping out at all. If the rear stepped out VER would opposite lock the steering, but that was just plain old understeer, nothing wrong with the line either. I also checked the trace again just to make sure, nothing wrong there either. Lewis comes out just 0.027 from that sequence.
Lewis doesn't gain in the traction zone, he gains in the post-traction acceleration phase down to T6. The Ferrari has a little bit more grunt in the low end, it has been that way for years.
In the ghost comparison video you also see a bit of a DRS advantage of the RedBull, Max closes in a bit on the end of the straights.
I think Lawson will come through fine. People are really piling on him way too much. Sainz is getting beat by 8 tenths to Albon and that shouldn't happen even if he is still adapting to the car or whatever.
The New Zealander will start from P20 in the Sprint on Friday night. Marko discussed the situation with OE24. “Yuki [Tsunoda] lacked consistency last year. Unfortunately, Lawson didn’t do well at all in Melbourne [last week]. But what gets lost in that is that he was one of the fastest in the race in dry conditions.”
“Please don’t write him off yet. Let’s wait for the first three races. They are on different circuits, then a clearer picture will emerge and we can draw conclusions.”
"oe24: Wäre es im Nachhinein betrachtet nicht besser gewesen, Tsunoda statt Liam Lawson als Perez-Nachfolger ins Red-Bull-Cockpit zu setzen?
MARKO: Yuki hat letztes Jahr die Konstanz gefehlt. Bei Lawson hat in Melbourne leider überhaupt nix zusammengepasst. Untergegangen ist allerdings, dass er während der Trockenphase zu den Schnellsten gezählt hat. Also schreiben wir ihn bitte noch nicht ab. Warten wir mal die ersten drei Rennen ab, die sind auf verschiedenen Strecken, danach ergibt sich ein aussagekräftiges Bild."
Don't know how accurate this is... but show the car characteristics and driving style pretty well. RB is still not great under traction out of slow speed.
We can see how HAM is prioritizing entry and VER is prioritizing exit (them both can do vice versa if it suits the car).
The Ferrari enjoys better traction at corner exit AND is rotating a damn bit better than the Redbull, showing that Ferrari have a much sharper front end. That's why despite late entries, HAM is not losing much at the exit to VER.
The only place where tables turned, was the T14 hairpin. VER braked late and still rotated the car much better than HAM to get a much straighter exit and faster acceleration (that helped him in the last 90 degree turn as well) and this is where he nearly fully gained back the 0.2s loss he suffered to HAM until then. That "late brake but still rotate quicker" rotation reminded me of Monaco 2023 penultimate corner where VER gained back all his losses until then to ALO. From a single corner.
As of now, on Friday night, inherently the Redbull is inferior to the Ferrari. Mercedes, not sure, I don't have a 'read'. Not even talking about Mclaren which is vastly superior to anyone else.
The thing with ghost vidoes is which subject is the static reference. Objects moving around will always seem buzzy and darting.
Onboards of both are a better reference.
Saying that to say, the Ferrari front end isn't as strong as it appears from a ghost video.
I understand the need to downplay whichever car also, but let's see what happens!
The thing with ghost vidoes is which subject is the static reference. Objects moving around will always seem buzzy and darting.
Onboards of both are a better reference.
Saying that to say, the Ferrari front end isn't as strong as it appears from a ghost video.
I understand the need to downplay whichever car also, but let's see what happens!
I expected a better excuse than 'ghost videos dont show the correct thing, onboards do'. We get a like for like comparison, and it's plain as daylight that the ferrari is rotating better than the redbull (except T14, which was one driver being 'correct' and the other risking it all with a maverick move).
Look at the much talked about T1-2-3 : HAM didn't hug the inside of the curve when T1 starts, went wide, did a 'V' (because his car can rotate well) into T2 and emerged slightly ahead in T3 ; while the redbull understeered and then snap oversteered, and the driver had to 'catch' the car. Same can be observed (how the Ferrari rotates better) for the T11-12-13 increasing radius corner. HAM does the 'V' while VER has to settle for the 'U', because the Redbull understeers.
Red Bull went with lower downforce to protect the tyres (said Helmut), which could mean their problem in s1 is with sliding and lacking some front-end grip. Quite different as on other circuits in which you go with more downforce to have less tyre deg. Strange. Pirelli went also with higher tyre pressures after qualy.
Red Bull went with lower downforce to protect the tyres (said Helmut), which could mean their problem in s1 is with sliding and lacking some front-end grip. Quite different as on other circuits in which you go with more downforce to have less tyre deg. Strange. Pirelli went also with higher tyre pressures after qualy.
He probably meant they dropped df to balance the car which should reduce tyre wear
Red Bull went with lower downforce to protect the tyres (said Helmut), which could mean their problem in s1 is with sliding and lacking some front-end grip. Quite different as on other circuits in which you go with more downforce to have less tyre deg. Strange. Pirelli went also with higher tyre pressures after qualy.
The track is very grippy so the higher pressures are to reduce the overheating from the higher energy going through the tyre structure.
The stiffer tyre warps less under the load and friction, for lack of better words.
The car looks great in fast corners. With the upcoming upgrades expected to improve tire wear, I can see Max winning on many tracks this year that are dominated by high-speed corners. If Max can secure eight race wins, that will likely be enough to secure the World Drivers' Championship.
