Ferrari 150° Italia

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Crabbia wrote:I'm going to reserve judgement until I see another engine cover. I still think it's intentional. This is carbon fibre ppl. Not ur moms finest china. It's not gonna break in shipping and if it had the black material underneath it would have shown some damage. and the paint is perfect.

As far as manufacturing defect is concerned. Really? Have u seen any of those in formula one? With these levels of QC? Especially considering they had an extra week to prepare for this race. Not likely.

Edit: it is intentional. Look at the first photo of francesc set. You can see that the shape follows the contour of how the suspension arm would come up under full load. (keep in mind the car is on a jack in the photo and hence the suspension arms are fully relaxed) Also, the black material would not show damage, whereas the painted material would. This also allows the engine cover to close the gaps left for the suspension arms. And I'd guess that that black material has a little less friction than a glossy coat of paint scarlet paint if the suspension were to rub against in the case of damage to the car.
Quite often, especially recently, you see last minute fixes, or what looks like hacksaw jobs. There is plenty of images on these forums of startling bad workmanship, on various different cars, just look for yourself.

As for QC, well this image from testing shows much better QC from Ferrari:

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But hey, why have a nice curved edge, when you can have something that looks like a hacksaw job instead, right? :wtf:
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I suspect the nature of the materials they're working with doesn't lend itself very well to ad hoc modifications - being somewhat prone to splintering.

Still though, with the amount of money that goes around, it's amazing to see a team like Ferrari with that sort of thing going on - sort of an upskirt shot of an F1 team isn't it? :D

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Usually f1 cars have fantastic fit and finish for a race car, but you have to remember that these are race cars and not production cars. They re meant to function well and sometimes need a quick fitting adjustment with a razor blade or duct tape. But the key is functionality over fit and finish on race cars. Its a waste of time to debate over this.

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To me the shape of the hole in the engine cover for the push rod is exactly the same in testing as the recent one in Australia. the only difference I can spot is the black backing. Which maybe, like u say, is a bit of a 'hack job' that they added after to provide a closer fit and tighten the hole in the engine cover for the push rod.
So it's the old engine cover with the black bits glued on to provide a closer fit. Saves them having to make a brand new engine cover that would be identical save for the shape of the holes for the push rod and wishbone.
So I say intentional but not pretty.
And, in the words of Forrest Gump, that's all I have to say about that.
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To me it seems interesting the scratched/painted costing on the side of the crash structure.
Do not know if it is something like zircotec or the usual silver paint that is put on inner brake ducts.
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Wheres the exhaust in the above pic? :?

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I do not know if the picture is frome melbourne; mybe is from testing, with exahusts in the old position?
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It is an old picture, from before the exhaust change. So they are hidden beneath the curvature of the sidepod.

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Fantastic zgred.

Is the transverse torsion bar there the ARB or the heave/3rd spring?

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In Stefano Domenicali's shoes I'd start worrying about my car's performance and the effectiveness of resource utilization. They started the F150 early and with plenty more human resources than other teams and it wasn't apparently enough for a pole sitting car. How is the car's performance going to increase sufficiently from now as Ferrari will have to make do with the same human resources as the other top teams this year? =P~
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Same situation as last year. Ferrari were on the back foot then nearly won.

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andrew wrote:Same situation as last year. Ferrari were on the back foot then nearly won.
No! This year they have the same resources as the other teams. Last year they had 300 more people. Big difference IMO.
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