I dont know whether to laugh or to be angry at such an absurd claim. You're either new to F1 or you're so blinded by your love of a certain driver you are incapable of seeing outside the ten kilometer thick biases you have to the real world.
Oh I bite. It's off season so; "hey conveniently forget that Hamilton dominated the last four races, " . How many races does a season count, how many ups, downs, happen during a season. So many things happened during that season that just pointing to one incident as the main incident for the outcome of the WDC is very narrow minded. If we then also take into account that after the season, journalists, team bosses (including Toto) pointed to Max as the best driver of 2021, I do not see any issue with the outcome of the WDC. The race itself is indeed debatable.zeroday wrote: ↑28 Dec 2024, 21:59This should be a sticky. Based. While most people agree with Toto’s stance, because facts don’t lie, I still can’t understand why a tiny minority continue to hide what happened at Abu Dhabi 2021. They conveniently forget that Hamilton dominated the last four races, which included Abu Dhabi, building up to that moment. It’s telling when even Bernie Ecclestone, of all people, came out in support of Hamilton, stating that he was the real WDC winner. If the situation had been reversed, I would have supported Red Bull too, but that’s not what transpired. Stick to the rules, and let the facts speak for themselves.
What I can’t understand is why Mercedes chose to drop their legal case against F1, which clearly was the most straightforward, open-and-shut case in their favor. Even F1 had to apologize to Hamilton for their mistake. Probably the darkest day for F1 ever, which is why most still find it disgusting bringing up. I recall a few races back in 2024, you heard Crofty, Brundle, and Kravitz talk extensively during a race and all agreed it was a complete travesty against Hamilton.
Anyway, thanks for the share.
I don't recall paddock wide consensus that Max was the better driver all season... Toto said Max was a deserving champion.DDopey wrote:Oh I bite. It's off season so; "hey conveniently forget that Hamilton dominated the last four races, " . How many races does a season count, how many ups, downs, happen during a season. So many things happened during that season that just pointing to one incident as the main incident for the outcome of the WDC is very narrow minded. If we then also take into account that after the season, journalists, team bosses (including Toto) pointed to Max as the best driver of 2021, I do not see any issue with the outcome of the WDC. The race itself is indeed debatable.zeroday wrote: ↑28 Dec 2024, 21:59This should be a sticky. Based. While most people agree with Toto’s stance, because facts don’t lie, I still can’t understand why a tiny minority continue to hide what happened at Abu Dhabi 2021. They conveniently forget that Hamilton dominated the last four races, which included Abu Dhabi, building up to that moment. It’s telling when even Bernie Ecclestone, of all people, came out in support of Hamilton, stating that he was the real WDC winner. If the situation had been reversed, I would have supported Red Bull too, but that’s not what transpired. Stick to the rules, and let the facts speak for themselves.
What I can’t understand is why Mercedes chose to drop their legal case against F1, which clearly was the most straightforward, open-and-shut case in their favor. Even F1 had to apologize to Hamilton for their mistake. Probably the darkest day for F1 ever, which is why most still find it disgusting bringing up. I recall a few races back in 2024, you heard Crofty, Brundle, and Kravitz talk extensively during a race and all agreed it was a complete travesty against Hamilton.
Anyway, thanks for the share.
It's not the Tifosi Lewis fans will have to argue with, its the Lecfosi.Cocles wrote: ↑31 Dec 2024, 10:09It'll be interesting to see what the 2025 Merc team thread looks like. Will the trolls return? Maybe not. The Lewis fans haven't haven't defended the team as much since the W13 denied Lewis his retribution, but things are still nowhere near 2012. Merc also has 8 titles and *a lot* more fans of its own since those days. I'm actually more interested in how the Lewis fans and Tifosi get along. The Merc fans have a gratitude towards Lewis the Tifosi lack, and I don't see them being as forgiving if Lewis doesn't quickly bring glory to red.
Are you including the sheer amount of posts that have been deleted or removed from this thread?GrizzleBoy wrote: ↑31 Dec 2024, 23:17It seems this thread has been the least popular of the big teams this year (even behind AM) and without the Intrateam bickering about drivers/favouritism/meta commentary about Lewis and his fans, it wouldn't have a large portion of its posting activity.
No one dares post.Cocles wrote: ↑01 Jan 2025, 00:10Are you including the sheer amount of posts that have been deleted or removed from this thread?GrizzleBoy wrote: ↑31 Dec 2024, 23:17It seems this thread has been the least popular of the big teams this year (even behind AM) and without the Intrateam bickering about drivers/favouritism/meta commentary about Lewis and his fans, it wouldn't have a large portion of its posting activity.
This is perfect example of being trolled, yet post remains......JPower wrote: ↑31 Dec 2024, 20:05It's not the Tifosi Lewis fans will have to argue with, its the Lecfosi.Cocles wrote: ↑31 Dec 2024, 10:09It'll be interesting to see what the 2025 Merc team thread looks like. Will the trolls return? Maybe not. The Lewis fans haven't haven't defended the team as much since the W13 denied Lewis his retribution, but things are still nowhere near 2012. Merc also has 8 titles and *a lot* more fans of its own since those days. I'm actually more interested in how the Lewis fans and Tifosi get along. The Merc fans have a gratitude towards Lewis the Tifosi lack, and I don't see them being as forgiving if Lewis doesn't quickly bring glory to red.
