Technical Regulations for 2009-2015

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that is a true thing, but even with then, if after 3 races 50% of the field is excluded for the championship because they got a big 0 behind their name it is actually pretty stupd then.

I would love to see a point for pole, most overtakes and fastest laps for example, that would add a playing field for the drivers
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wesley123 wrote:really, germanengeneering, your suggestions are pretty much stupid.

1. you put a cost cap in of 100 mil, then you put back unlimited engines, that wont change a damn thing as they wont be able to increase the number of engines used.
2. a point system where the first 6 gets points is stupid too, that means 20 other drivers wil not score any points, thus overall making half the field at least be without points at the end of the season
3. the CDG wing is also a bad idea, it was rejected for something actually :roll:
4. The f1 cars arent made for american circuits, certainly not for ovals, it is simply just dangerous and cars need a complete revamp only for those races
F1 cars are not made for American tracks. Now that's the stupidest thing I ever heard.
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wesley123 wrote:that is a true thing, but even with then, if after 3 races 50% of the field is excluded for the championship because they got a big 0 behind their name it is actually pretty stupd then.

I would love to see a point for pole, most overtakes and fastest laps for example, that would add a playing field for the drivers
But if we put a budget cap on all the teams there will be an equal playing field so even the worst team has a chance to win. You are seeing this in Nascar now the biggest team Hendrick racing has all the money and is winning all the time. They are like the Ferrari of Nascar.
People don't understand that it was maybe my biggest pleasure to drive an F1 car when it's wet. - Alain Prost

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I have to do something. I don't really like Jean Todt I don't think he will do a great job. If anything he will favor Ferrari.
People don't understand that it was maybe my biggest pleasure to drive an F1 car when it's wet. - Alain Prost

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Germanengineering wrote:I have to do something. I don't really like Jean Todt I don't think he will do a great job. If anything he will favor Ferrari.
Perhaps the first thing you could do is answering people in one post and not 3 in a row.

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Ogami musashi wrote:
Germanengineering wrote:I have to do something. I don't really like Jean Todt I don't think he will do a great job. If anything he will favor Ferrari.
Perhaps the first thing you could do is answering people in one post and not 3 in a row.
Maybe you should worry about yourself and just focus on the subject.
People don't understand that it was maybe my biggest pleasure to drive an F1 car when it's wet. - Alain Prost

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I think the tyres should be made to last only 1/3 distance or less. They should degrade so much that a change is needed... The drop off in performance should produce a difference in lap times similar to what you see when for example full wets / intermiates / slicks are run on a drying track.

Last weekend all the top runners could have done the whole race on the prime tyre.

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I think a good modification is removing the max rpm in top gear, this will allow REAL slip streaming in straights than an electronic RPM maximization which limits top speed. just imagine gaining speed on a straight through slipstream, and the engine stops accelerating because of the RPM Limit, that must suck big time.

this will also add a performance/damage ratio during overtaking.

peronal opinion what do u guys think?

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I think the tyres should be made to last only 1/3 distance or less. They should degrade so much that a change is needed...
I feel just the opposite.
They should drop the requirement to change at all and the hard choice should be hard enough to jussssst reach the finish badly worn.
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strad wrote:
I think the tyres should be made to last only 1/3 distance or less. They should degrade so much that a change is needed...
I feel just the opposite.
They should drop the requirement to change at all and the hard choice should be hard enough to jussssst reach the finish badly worn.
It is a fine balance. Tyre manufacturers will not come into F1 if the regulations make their tyres wear badly, it is not good PR.

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I think tires should be made so hard that in the best dry conditions they provide as much grip as today's wet tires in the rain. Cheaper than sprinklers!

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It is a fine balance. Tyre manufacturers will not come into F1 if the regulations make their tyres wear badly, it is not good PR.
The softs would wear out and have to be changed,,the hard compound, IF you nursed them could make it the whole distance and that would be good PR from a durability aspect which is what 90% of the shoppers are looking for. They could advertise how well their hards held up and how good the performance of their softs were..WIN WIN
I want hard tires for a couple of reasons, strategy for one and reducing the offline clag for another...It would certainly help overtaking if a driver could get off the preferred line without skating around on marbles.
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Can I ask if it would be possible to remove the front wings, or reduce their width significantly, so that they cars can run up each others arses.
I know the cry will go up, 'we will lose downforce, understeer, corner speed' etc etc.
So what? It would be the same for all.The advantage of being able to follow another car closely through a high speed corner is utterly fundamental to all motor sport.
The engineers seem to have forgotten this in their pursuit of laptime at the expense of racing.
There are many reasons over the years that have led them to go down this design route and I am sure we all have views on that.

Perhaps Bernie has a point and the regulations should be set by people other than engineers ans drivers. Certainly the so called experts currently writing the blue book have led us down a path that is not condusive to close racing.

The other issue I want to ask, now that we dont have refuelling, is can we have a tyre that does not shed marbles of rubber?. This tyre would last longer and not shed rubber all over the track. The advantage being to widen the racing line through a corner so that drivers have an alternative racing line.

Yes I know less grip, less speed etc, but I dont care.
The arguement that GP2 would then be faster the F1 will not apply because the same constraints would be enforced on ALL formulae.

While we are at it I would also ban carbon brakes. F1 cars are over braked now, once the braked wheel is locked wheels they can slow down anymore by having superbrakes.

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Actually, less wide wings would mean that they CAN'T follow in high speed corners. The whole point is they don't have enough frontal downforce to follow closely in a fast corner AFAIK
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