Sebastian Vettel has won the Malaysian GP after passing his teammate following an extremely hard fought battle 10 laps from the end. Mercedes impressed as well with Hamilton finishing on the podium, just ahead of his teammate Nico Rosberg.
Vettel is not along side in the top photo, he's half a car length, to a full car length behind.ChrisF1 wrote:Vettel alongside on both, look at the gap between Webber and the pitwall in both, and the white line which is parallel to the pitwall.
Hamilton was in full fuel saving mode and was having to drive to a relatively slow target time. Rosberg could have gone quicker but, according to the team, would have then run into the same problem. There weren't any threats around so they decided to just bring the cars home.JimClarkFan wrote:So what was the story with Rosberg being told not to pass Lewis?
I don't like the idea of Nico being automatically made a second driver of the back of one race.
Your Anti Hamilton posts are hilarious, how exactly did Hamilton not have his mind on the game? his pursuit of both RBs was pretty impressive, and his outlaps almost everytime were very good!Shrieker wrote:Both Hamilton and Alonso were braindead this race. Alonso for not pitting for fw replacement when he could, and Hamilton for confusing pit boxes ffs. It shows his mind is not in the game.
Maybe that's why he is called baby Schumi , just looks at the amount of fans vs critics that Schumi has (even the tifosi's cheered for him at Monza) . Anyway [-o< I am off discussing ego's and characters of driversmyurr wrote:Had he been true to himself then he probably would have had more respect. Instead he's acted like an arse and then lied about it to defend himself. That's two "offenses", and very Schumacher like and that was something that always caused controversy about him despite his record. Had he been man enough to say "I was asked to hold station but I'm hungry to win this championship and chose to ignore the instruction" then he would probably have gained some fans. Instead he's lied and lied again making him look even worse.rssh wrote:Well what would you think would be his brand value after he said that ? After Turkey 2010 antics the team would have taught him not to disrespect anyone publically for the brand image of RB and not himself . Also (I am no Marko fan) Marko was not impressed by SEB and he said that delinquently. May be they need to give Marko more training in PR maybe for RB brand sake .
Look at how Ted Kravitz has reacted. He's always going on about how Vettel's such a nice guy, but even he's now saying that he respects him less after today.
It was a silly mistake, but the driver's have a very complicated procedure to go through as they come into the pits so I can understand him being distracted at that point.Dyanxx wrote:Your Anti Hamilton posts are hilarious, how exactly did Hamilton not have his mind on the game? his pursuit of both RBs was pretty impressive, and his outlaps almost everytime were very good!Shrieker wrote:Both Hamilton and Alonso were braindead this race. Alonso for not pitting for fw replacement when he could, and Hamilton for confusing pit boxes ffs. It shows his mind is not in the game.
kilcoo316 wrote:Personally, if I were RedBull - I'd park Vettel for the next race or 2 and race the reserve driver.
From my POV, the drivers are just the last in the line of an effort requiring hundreds of people. I would make it crystal clear that putting the work of those hundreds at undue risk due to the driver's ego is simply not acceptable.
It was the team's call to leave Alonso out, that's confirmed BTW. It is always the teams responsibility in cases like this. The driver cannot see the front wing, and has no idea how badly damaged it is.Shrieker wrote:Both Hamilton and Alonso were braindead this race. Alonso for not pitting for fw replacement when he could, and Hamilton for confusing pit boxes ffs. It shows his mind is not in the game.
It is a couple of pages back (43) on the "maintain the gap" video. You can hear the chat between the team and the drivers. At least a part of it.myurr wrote:We're not criticising Vettel for racing - we're criticising him for lying and being a hypocrite. He's benefitted from team orders for the past three years, yet this time he's exploited them to get past Webber. We have no idea if he'd been able to pass Webber had he expected the attack. He was told twice by the team that Vettel would not be attacking him.MWcrazyhorse wrote:Such a sureal situation that a driver is blamed for racing and overtaking.
Vettel told the team on the track on the radio he is going to fight for spot #1.
That is exactly what he did. =D>
Clearly Red Bull seems much more concerned about the constructors championship.
Vettel is getting some flak.
I hope the team resolves this and next time there is no more order.
When did Vettel tell the team on the radio he was going to fight, I haven't heard that - please supply the exact quote and preferably a recording. Had he said anything doesn't that also prove beyond all doubt that he's lying when he claimed he didn't know about the team orders?
My video is of the 2011 Silverstone GP finishing order as follows:MWcrazyhorse wrote:myurr wrote:It is a couple of pages back (43) on the "maintain the gap" video. You can hear the chat between the team and the drivers. At least a part of it.MWcrazyhorse wrote:
Not if certain people are simply too stupid to understand, or even read up on, how the sport has been ran for decades.GrizzleBoy wrote:Guys, I'm sure we can make our points without insulting each other.
