Alonso's Crash

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timbo
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lebesset wrote:it makes it quite clear that there is nothing wrong with the car , and blood tests showed there was no electric shock
how clear can it be ..
It doesn't tell the cause of the crash.
lebesset wrote:unless you think button was telling lies and was stupid enoughto drive an unsafe car
They all to some extent stupid enough as no F1 car is inherently safe, there's always element of prediction at that.

lebesset
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timbo wrote:
lebesset wrote:it makes it quite clear that there is nothing wrong with the car , and blood tests showed there was no electric shock
how clear can it be ..
It doesn't tell the cause of the crash.
lebesset wrote:unless you think button was telling lies and was stupid enoughto drive an unsafe car
They all to some extent stupid enough as no F1 car is inherently safe, there's always element of prediction at that.
well that is a specious argument ...on that basis going to bed is inherantly unsafe ...more people die in bed than anywhere else !
to the optimist a glass is half full ; to the pessimist a glass is half empty ; to the F1 engineer the glass is twice as big as it needs to be

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lebesset wrote:well that is a specious argument ...on that basis going to bed is inherantly unsafe ...more people die in bed than anywhere else !
I don't doubt that people at macca did their best to check if the car is ok to be raced. But that doesn't tell much about what happened to Alonso.

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timbo wrote:
lebesset wrote:how about the opinion of someone who is

accustomed to reading the telemetry
saw all the telemetry
wouldn't risk his neck
http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/m ... grand-prix
Yeah
Asked whether he thought it was a normal accident Button shrugged and added: “I can’t comment on that. It’s unfair.”
Since joining Mclaren Button has gotten very good with that Ronspeak stuff, of course speaking fluent McLaren i'd have to say Jenson has perfected the adherence to a homogeneous lexicon axiomatically optimising messaging consistency. You know that filler, using long words that never really mean anything, eloquent articulate statements that nobody can ever draw a conclusion from. Filler.

Does anyone think that it is fair to say that the team has hurt themselves more by handling this incident in the way they have rather than saying, he was unwell and lost control of the car? Speculation is now rife from as to if he will be back in malaysia to if he will be back at all. All of this ontop of a car thats at the back of the grid. Im watching this drama unfold with interest. I love McLaren soap operas. The 1993 Senna wont be driving, Alonsogate, Firing Andretti, Mansell quitting and now Alonsogate 2. Clearly something happened to Alonso and what exactly happened is being very deliberatly witheld and kept between Alonso and only the most senior management. “I can’t comment on that. It’s unfair.” I can't see Button reeling off a corporate scripted response like that without being given a prior brief.

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I don't know about you guys, but to myself, yesterday's race felt emptier and less joyful without Alonso on the grid. Out of the many drivers who did not start or make it past lap 1, his missing presence was the only one I actually felt.

autogyro
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IMO Alonso knew the McLaren would be way off the pace and he knew he could do nothing with it in the race.
The crash was a bonus for him to avoid first race humiliation.

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Having suffered a concussion myself, I know for a fact that the weeks following it you don't feel/act 100% (and that was with a second blow as I stubbornly went back out snowboarding when I shouldn't have done). The week following it, you feel as though you are walking through treacle at times.

I don't think what happened to Alonso is anything more to it than that. Doctors kept him in for observation for a few days - the first night/day after a concussion you are monitored very closely to make sure there is nothing underlying, even if scans don't show it on time of admission - then told not to race for Australia. F1 world goes up in arms thinking there is some sort of conspiracy.

Gaz.
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lebesset wrote:
timbo wrote:
lebesset wrote:it makes it quite clear that there is nothing wrong with the car , and blood tests showed there was no electric shock
how clear can it be ..
It doesn't tell the cause of the crash.
lebesset wrote:unless you think button was telling lies and was stupid enoughto drive an unsafe car
They all to some extent stupid enough as no F1 car is inherently safe, there's always element of prediction at that.
well that is a specious argument ...on that basis going to bed is inherantly unsafe ...more people die in bed than anywhere else !
And of these people who die in bed, how many were killed by their bed?
Forza Jules

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Gaz. wrote:
lebesset wrote:
well that is a specious argument ...on that basis going to bed is inherantly unsafe ...more people die in bed than anywhere else !
And of these people who die in bed, how many were killed by their bed?
reply of the day :mrgreen: 8)
"Explain the ending to F1 in football terms"
"Hamilton was beating Verstappen 7-0, then the ref decided F%$& rules, next goal wins
while also sending off 4 Hamilton players to make it more interesting"

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Fernando Alonso to take positive steps back into Formula 1 by completing simulator runs as well as the mandatory FIA fitness / medical tests before the Malaysian Grand Prix:

BBC:

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/formula1/31923004

Guardian:

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/m ... f1-mclaren
If someone said to me that you can have three wishes, my first would have been to get into racing, my second to be in Formula 1, my third to drive for Ferrari.

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turbof1 wrote: YOU SHALL NOT......STALLLLL!!!
#aerogollum

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Gaz. wrote:
And of these people who die in bed, how many were killed by their bed?

=D> :mrgreen:

Manoah2u
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big beard for a 15 year old :mrgreen:

[btw that was a joke]
"Explain the ending to F1 in football terms"
"Hamilton was beating Verstappen 7-0, then the ref decided F%$& rules, next goal wins
while also sending off 4 Hamilton players to make it more interesting"

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Gaz. wrote:
And of these people who die in bed, how many were killed by their bed?
Offtopic..
About 450 every year..in the US alone..
Beds do kill people too

Nowhere in the world could possibly be safer than your own bed, right? Well, actually, you're safer in open water risking the sharks, and even the jellyfish – 450 people every year die falling out of bed in the US alone.

This isn't the number of people who die in their beds, that is much higher, this is the number of people who actually die because of their beds. Or their floors, depending on how you look at it.
https://www.bookyourdive.com/blog/2012/ ... an-a-shark

:D

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I found this video of a drag car that went airbourne and it hit the wall in really unexplainable matter... so I'm guessing that McLaren could be right with their explanation.
From the video below you can clearly see that when the car lost traction,it was kinda blown away from the wind (I'm guessing) straight into the wall. The other car didn't felt it though.
Not that I exclude other possibilities ,...what I'm trying to say is that I guess sometimes crashes are just strange.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zxe_DqAkeAk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NWibhly_0Q