Kubica's Recovery

[raymondu999]

Whoops. I meant Renault the Grand Prix team (that will be Lotus GP in 2012)

[Mr Alcatraz]

Renault...They already have a deal with Ferrari paying 1/2 year salary for 02.12 and then he will be among friends Luca would love to have him fit, and healthy
Alonso would test him. Massa needs a good car. He is no Rubens, Massa is Mike's creation and it's probably a good thing. Kubica to Ferrari, Kimi to Renault, Felipe back at Sauber with Perez…Koby needs to run Indy cars with Sato trust me.

[ESPImperium]

Probably the best decision. A strong Kubica is better for F1 than a half fit one in the long run.

Id recon that he will start off with some Karting then into some FR2.0 then some WSR3.5 then into posibly an old GP2 car then into a Renault R29 or probably a R30 from last year, the last car that he knew from F1. After that, probably overlapping with the R30 tests, some FP1 sessions. After that, id recon that a race is posible, id recon the other side of the F1 Summer break, probably when they have passed the point they need to keep Petrov, then ditch him for Kubica.

[Mr Alcatraz]

I just think that if it's a fair fight Ferrari would love to go with 2#1s regarless of what Alonso says. I remember Massa when he stood out as a midfield teams guy who could run long one stopers, and consistantly in the points. Maybe FM will make the adjustment. Alonso and Kubica are sharp witted gamers.
Anyway quali should be interesting depending on the weather.

[Richard]

Renault...They already have a deal with Ferrari paying 1/2 year salary for 02.12

Ferrari are paying 50% of Kubica's salary? I've not heard that before.

[Mr Alcatraz]

Renault...They already have a deal with Ferrari paying 1/2 year salary for 02.12

Ferrari are paying 50% of Kubica's salary? I've not heard that before.

It's personalized information!
Just kidding Richard. Today is the day of RK giving his ride up, mark it!

[PlatinumZealot]

Renault...They already have a deal with Ferrari paying 1/2 year salary for 02.12 and then he will be among friends Luca would love to have him fit, and healthy
Alonso would test him. Massa needs a good car. He is no Rubens, Massa is Mike's creation and it's probably a good thing. Kubica to Ferrari, Kimi to Renault, Felipe back at Sauber with Perez…Koby needs to run Indy cars with Sato trust me.

Nice one there Alcatraz. But It's hard to imagine what Kubica can offer Ferrari. After the Kimi Debacle, I think Ferrari will stick to more "western" drivers.

[Mr Alcatraz]

Renault...They already have a deal with Ferrari paying 1/2 year salary for 02.12 and then he will be among friends Luca would love to have him fit, and healthy
Alonso would test him. Massa needs a good car. He is no Rubens, Massa is Mike's creation and it's probably a good thing. Kubica to Ferrari, Kimi to Renault, Felipe back at Sauber with Perez…Koby needs to run Indy cars with Sato trust me.

Nice one there Alcatraz. But It's hard to imagine what Kubica can offer Ferrari. After the Kimi Debacle, I think Ferrari will stick to more "western" drivers.

What? Do you think Jacques Villeneuve will replace Massa?
Not that I really think it will happen, but RK is the next best thing to being a native, he's lived in Italy a large portion of his racing life.

[ringo]

A 2 year hiatus for a guy that had some skills and a relatively meager F1 resume is not justified by something that they do for fun.
2 years gap is too long for a 1 race winner.

Too many young guns out there that will develop their skills and learn the tyres and cars. Not only that they will have a physical advantage and be fresh on the principal's minds.
If Robert comes back and gets a seat in 2013. It will be more for respect than anything else.
Sounds gloomy, but i can see him as a de la rosa type test driver in 2 years, if he clings to team and while only being able to do the simulator work when the petrovs and grosjeans are well placed to pilot the car at 100%.

"2 years gap" - only 7 months passed. You're a ********* if you think that he will not come back 2012. eot

I'm an asterisk?

The question now is how far into 2012 will he return. I can see a few practice sessions. And if the car is very good and both drivers doing a good job, i don't see them giving him a race. He will get pissed and fall out with Boulier over Grosjean bias and he will sit out till 2013 to go to ferrari or elsewhere.

[Mr Alcatraz]

A 2 year hiatus for a guy that had some skills and a relatively meager F1 resume is not justified by something that they do for fun.
2 years gap is too long for a 1 race winner.

Too many young guns out there that will develop their skills and learn the tyres and cars. Not only that they will have a physical advantage and be fresh on the principal's minds.
If Robert comes back and gets a seat in 2013. It will be more for respect than anything else.
Sounds gloomy, but i can see him as a de la rosa type test driver in 2 years, if he clings to team and while only being able to do the simulator work when the petrovs and grosjeans are well placed to pilot the car at 100%.

"2 years gap" - only 7 months passed. You're a ********* if you think that he will not come back 2012. eot

I'm an asterisk?

The question now is how far into 2012 will he return. I can see a few practice sessions. And if the car is very good and both drivers doing a good job, i don't see them giving him a race. He will get pissed and fall out with Boulier over Grosjean bias and he will sit out till 2013 to go to ferrari or elsewhere.

Nice Ringo! That's the beauty of archives. There is none as blind as those who will not see

[Donuts]

Lateset news! Renault "tweaked" the statement made yesterday.

http://www.autosport.com/f1/

[Fil]

I have to say, the longer Kubica's recovery goes, the more i distrust & dislike his manager. There's something suspicious about Morelli and his outwardly combative language. Has he said anything positive about Renault in 2011??

I understand a manager needs to support his driver 100%, but it's over the top with this guy. Renault must hate dealing with him..

[Mr Alcatraz]

I have to say, the longer Kubica's recovery goes, the more i distrust & dislike his manager. There's something suspicious about Morelli and his outwardly combative language. Has he said anything positive about Renault in 2011??

I understand a manager needs to support his driver 100%, but it's over the top with this guy. Renault must hate dealing with him..

Ah ya' why is he making statements like this?

"We count on and hope to be ready, but in any case the delay will be a few months, 2013 was never mentioned. Renault will go its way with regards to the drivers, while we will look for alternative solutions.


"[The contract] does not extend to 2012, it ends at the end of December, so from 1st January will we be free to go in whatever direction."


"Plans have gone out of the window, but if Robert comes back that's because he will be competitive like before and attractive for the top teams,".

Oh that's right, he's a lawyer.

[marekk]

I understand a manager needs to support his driver 100%, but it's over the top with this guy. Renault must hate dealing with him..

As usual, when nobody knows what's it all about, it's about the money. That's Morelli's job, and F1 is serious business, and Morelli's 20% (or more) is worth the fight.

Maybe he is a little over the top, but LRGP's interpretation of "i can't warrant i will be ready" as "he said he will not be ready" is over the top as well. Time will tell.

@ringo - there must be some reason for paying nice salary to a guy without ANY sponsors behind him, when there are so many young guns with dozen of millions in the wallet. They'll have all the data about RK's 2010 driving and they have lot more data from previous (obviously not that bad) years to compare against.

[Mr Alcatraz]