McLaren MP4-31 Honda

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Oops yes sorry. Got a little Copy & Paste Happy. :D

Edit: this one is definitely a McLaren ^^
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And some from AMuS:
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Note the Massive mounting Bracket for the RW Pylon through the Exhaust:
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Also i'm now excited for the new Front Wing. AMuS reports Boullier saying that it isn't just an Updated Frontwing but a new Concept.
http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/form ... 96429.html
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Thunders wrote:Also i'm now excited for the new Front Wing. AMuS reports Boullier saying that it isn't just an Updated Frontwing but a new Concept.
http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/form ... 96429.html
About time, McLaren need to follow mercedes or Ferrari's concept if Airflow work's over the rest of the car, it will be interesting to see it.
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KingHamilton01 wrote:
Thunders wrote:Also i'm now excited for the new Front Wing. AMuS reports Boullier saying that it isn't just an Updated Frontwing but a new Concept.
http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/form ... 96429.html
About time, McLaren need to follow mercedes or Ferrari's concept if Airflow work's over the rest of the car, it will be interesting to see it.
I don't think they necessarily need to follow another team's concept, especially Ferrari, which I wouldn't judge as the aerodynamic benchmark at the moment. But McLaren's FW looks like a mess to me, and I'm definitely excited to see what change of concept they'll bring.

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I don't really want to start a new thread w/o having an engineering degree. So I suppose I'll ask this here:
With Alonso's car as mangled as it was, did he put himself at risk by climbing out they way he did instead of waiting for the car to be flipped over and doing that two footed "KERS jump" I've seen drivers do.

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DiogoBrand wrote:
KingHamilton01 wrote:
Thunders wrote:Also i'm now excited for the new Front Wing. AMuS reports Boullier saying that it isn't just an Updated Frontwing but a new Concept.
http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/form ... 96429.html
About time, McLaren need to follow mercedes or Ferrari's concept if Airflow work's over the rest of the car, it will be interesting to see it.
I don't think they necessarily need to follow another team's concept, especially Ferrari, which I wouldn't judge as the aerodynamic benchmark at the moment. But McLaren's FW looks like a mess to me, and I'm definitely excited to see what change of concept they'll bring.
Looks like a mess? What exactly makes you think that?

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And when will they that new concept wing introduce? :)

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trinidefender wrote:
DiogoBrand wrote:
KingHamilton01 wrote:
About time, McLaren need to follow mercedes or Ferrari's concept if Airflow work's over the rest of the car, it will be interesting to see it.
I don't think they necessarily need to follow another team's concept, especially Ferrari, which I wouldn't judge as the aerodynamic benchmark at the moment. But McLaren's FW looks like a mess to me, and I'm definitely excited to see what change of concept they'll bring.
Looks like a mess? What exactly makes you think that?
If you look at Red Bull's wing, it's almost if those six elements form a single plane, the transition from each other is almost seamless, all the angles are very flowing and the widths very consistent.
On McLaren's wing, from one element to the other there are some weird transitions in angles and width, it never really looked very 'flowing' to me. Of course I don't have CFD eyes, but based on looks I'd say McLaren's current wing is light years behind Red Bull, as has consistently been the case since 2010.

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DiogoBrand wrote:
If you look at Red Bull's wing, it's almost if those six elements form a single plane, the transition from each other is almost seamless, all the angles are very flowing and the widths very consistent.
On McLaren's wing, from one element to the other there are some weird transitions in angles and width, it never really looked very 'flowing' to me. Of course I don't have CFD eyes, but based on looks I'd say McLaren's current wing is light years behind Red Bull, as has consistently been the case since 2010.
Sorry to burst your bubble but don't you think if it were that simple then the millions of dollars spent on aero design through aerodynamicists (some of whom are so specialised that they will focus on one particular thing such as
microturbulence), CFD and wind tunnels that they would have figured this out by now.

Sorry but I really think you're talking out of your ass by now.

N.b. That old saying that if something looks aerodynamic it probably is doesn't apply in many situations.

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trinidefender wrote:
DiogoBrand wrote:
If you look at Red Bull's wing, it's almost if those six elements form a single plane, the transition from each other is almost seamless, all the angles are very flowing and the widths very consistent.
On McLaren's wing, from one element to the other there are some weird transitions in angles and width, it never really looked very 'flowing' to me. Of course I don't have CFD eyes, but based on looks I'd say McLaren's current wing is light years behind Red Bull, as has consistently been the case since 2010.
Sorry to burst your bubble but don't you think if it were that simple then the millions of dollars spent on aero design through aerodynamicists (some of whom are so specialised that they will focus on one particular thing such as
microturbulence), CFD and wind tunnels that they would have figured this out by now.

Sorry but I really think you're talking out of your ass by now.

N.b. That old saying that if something looks aerodynamic it probably is doesn't apply in many situations.
That's probably why McLaren is regarded as being so superior to Red Bull in aero.

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DiogoBrand wrote:
trinidefender wrote:
DiogoBrand wrote:
If you look at Red Bull's wing, it's almost if those six elements form a single plane, the transition from each other is almost seamless, all the angles are very flowing and the widths very consistent.
On McLaren's wing, from one element to the other there are some weird transitions in angles and width, it never really looked very 'flowing' to me. Of course I don't have CFD eyes, but based on looks I'd say McLaren's current wing is light years behind Red Bull, as has consistently been the case since 2010.
Sorry to burst your bubble but don't you think if it were that simple then the millions of dollars spent on aero design through aerodynamicists (some of whom are so specialised that they will focus on one particular thing such as
microturbulence), CFD and wind tunnels that they would have figured this out by now.

Sorry but I really think you're talking out of your ass by now.

N.b. That old saying that if something looks aerodynamic it probably is doesn't apply in many situations.
That's probably why McLaren is regarded as being so superior to Red Bull in aero.
Sooo.... what you are saying is that former RedBull chief aerodynamicist suddenly forgot how to do his job?

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I'm saying I expect the former Red Bull aerodynamicist to do a good job and bring a really nice Front Wing for this weekend, and maybe help bridge the gap between his current and former teams.

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Alonso did another check this morning and doctors gave him green light.
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GoranF1 wrote:Alonso did another check this morning and doctors gave him green light.
For real?