HRT F112 Cosworth

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Will HRT be in Q2 in 2012?

Yes - at the start of the Season
16
5%
Yes - by Germany
22
7%
No - not in 2012
167
54%
Never!
103
33%
 
Total votes: 308

cbbcisace
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Marcush, you do realise that HRT are not using the Dallara chassis anymore? :D

As both the F111 are sat in Spain right now!

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cbbcisace wrote:Marcush, you do realise that HRT are not using the Dallara chassis anymore? :D

As both the F111 are sat in Spain right now!
the difference small enough to consider it being the same...The chassi top half is definetly the same ,willis claiming last year they had the lower half a bit different...But steering wishbones front etc very much look unaltered......
Yes Carbotech laid up new chassis last year and maybe the new cars have new moncoques made by Holzer with refined layups but the cars transmission forward is technically much the same since the very beginnung

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I agree on the part that they look the similar in concept, but dont all teams chassis look similar from year to year? , I thought you meant they where the actual same chassis :)

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is this a NACA duct ?

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hardingfv32
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I would say no. There should not be anything allowed inside the cockpit opening (a specified dimension) other than the padded collar system.

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cbbcisace wrote:I agree on the part that they look the similar in concept, but dont all teams chassis look similar from year to year? , I thought you meant they where the actual same chassis :)

I would not bet a single € on these chassis being actually new ones and not reworked Dallara surplus... :roll: Maybe I´m wrong but to me the chassis looks the same since day one.

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I too feel that this year's car is simply an evolution of the Dallara design albeit with a new monocoque to take the KERS. Whatever the case the car is still not fast enough. They need to magic a gain of at LEAST 1s a lap from somewhere.

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I think it's clearly still the Dallara design. Whether or not it's still the Dallara chassis physically I don't know - but I don't think it is. But to say it's a different chassis design is wrong IMO
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cbbcisace
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They obviously have based it off the Dallara chassis, but it is slimmer so it isn't the F110 or F111 tub.

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HRT F112 updates from Barcelona test on March till Bahrain (overall)

1.Bodywork around exhaust area (4 versions)
2.Rear suspension
3.Bargeboard addition
4.Nose vanes
5.Front wing
6.Engine cover end (funnel)
7.Front brakes
-lastly minor livery changes

quite a lot for a small team !
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marcush.
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maybe someone has enough picture at hand to show the geometrical differnces in tub design...

Some of the pictures actually show body lines related to the old sidepods contours ? don´t look at the arrows but to the left transition monocoque to sidepod:
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Just a couple of pics for you to look at.

Side on Comparison First:
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By cbbcisace at 2012-04-24

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By cbbcisace at 2012-04-24

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By cbbcisace at 2012-04-24

marcush.
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not being completely blind I accept this is a different tub design. :oops:

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I've done a big tidy up to return this to a car focussed thread. Team talk is in the team talk thread....

:arrow: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=10924&start=255#unread

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FrukostScones wrote:http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/99142

:?

"testing? Nah, we never did it and never will."
we knew this over 7 hours ago :)