Mercedes AMG F1 W05

[Owen.C93]

3 sidepod exits and 2 engine covers.

[OO7]

Browsing f1fanatic.co.uk too, i've only found
A) The normal/The cannon
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/u ... 2014-2.jpg
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2014/01/30/j ... re-2014-2/
B) The fatty/ The short cannon
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/u ... 2014-1.jpg
C) (and in memory of an italian singer) The cannonball woman
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/wp-content/u ... 2014-p.jpg

The following is an image on the normal launch spec:

I wonder what the purpose of this specification was, as it appears to be far to small for racing purposes. I can't image that Mercedes miscalculated the required cooling by such a margin.

[Anon123]

Probably just seeing where the cooling limits are.

[Nicola11]

According to AMuS - Mercedes brings a big Update Package to the next Bahrain test.

"Next week the first major upgrade comes to the car. We have heard that a new nose with it. It should be slightly lower, but interfere with the front wing still less because the suspension points are further back."

http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/form ... 87131.html

[OO7]

Probably just seeing where the cooling limits are.

But it seems so far off, the launch spec was miniscule compared to the subsequent versions.

[gray41]

Its testing, they are testing solutions that will maybe be used only once, launch spec could only come out during a cool wet race.

[theformula]

Why would they come with a slightly lower nose? Surely that would reduce the amount of airflow that can pass under the car? I'm sure they know what they're doing, but what would be the reasoning behind this?

[OO7]

Its testing, they are testing solutions that will maybe be used only once, launch spec could only come out during a cool wet race.

But Jerez was extremely cool and rained on occasion, yet they only used the launch spec while filming at Silverstone and the first few laps on the first day (dry) at Jerez.

[smlbstcbr]

Why would they come with a slightly lower nose? Surely that would reduce the amount of airflow that can pass under the car? I'm sure they know what they're doing, but what would be the reasoning behind this?

Maybe too much downforce at the back?

[theformula]

Why would they come with a slightly lower nose? Surely that would reduce the amount of airflow that can pass under the car? I'm sure they know what they're doing, but what would be the reasoning behind this?

Maybe too much downforce at the back?

Highly doubt it, these teams will want all the downforce they can create at the rear especially because of these new power units and the torque they produce.

[copperkipper1]

I wouldn't put it was "Too much downforce at the rear"

More like they are happy with the downforce & rear grip therefore are looking for more front grip. I have a feeling that they have solid slow speed corner traction again.

[theformula]

Just put the question to scarbs. He said the purpose would be to offset the understeer by creating more front DF.

However, I still don't understand why they would want to do this because surely they would want all the DF they can get at the rear at this stage of the season?

[tranquility2k4]

The translation of the articles on auto und motor sport can often be misleading and it may be that although the nose is lowered at some point, it may not be right at the front or it may be a different design at the front such that they still get as much airflow under the nose? It is mentioned that the key to this nose change is to make the front wing work more effectively and move the suspension further back or possibly increase the efficiency of the air flow from the front of the car. This could add more front downforce but equally increase the flow to the rear. It's not as if the only air that gets to the rear is underneath the nose, so this could just be a compromise. You can be sure that they know what they're doing.

[theformula]

The translation of the articles on auto und motor sport can often be misleading and it may be that although the nose is lowered at some point, it may not be right at the front or it may be a different design at the front such that they still get as much airflow under the nose? It is mentioned that the key to this nose change is to make the front wing work more effectively and move the suspension further back or possibly increase the efficiency of the air flow from the front of the car. This could add more front downforce but equally increase the flow to the rear. It's not as if the only air that gets to the rear is underneath the nose, so this could just be a compromise. You can be sure that they know what they're doing.

Yeah, well put, I guess we'll see next thursday!

[Owen.C93]

I posted this into the car comparison thread so if you wish to talk about the comparison then post there. But I thought this was also relevant for purely W05 talk:

I've tried to match this up as best I can but I still find it hard to believe that everything on the Merc is so much lower. However there is no denying that the sidepod height is lower because you can see how the turning vanes are set to the maximum height.



We also know that the DRS flaps are likely to be equal in size, which shows that the Merc is running a shallower rear wing than the McL/max regulation state. So perhaps they really do have enough rear downforce. (Something that RBR have done the past few years)


(RB10 is similar to the McLaren in sidepod height, dont have the patience to align these up in GIMP on a trackpad: http://www.formule1.nl/media/uploads/me ... 862.44.jpg)