2019 Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

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Nonserviam85 wrote:
28 Sep 2019, 11:34
Great news for McLaren, I start to believe more and more now that Mercedes will retire as a team and stay as a PU provider only
Exactly the same.

Mercedes has nothing to win to stay in 2021. They must fire people, they risk to lose.
So ending in 2020 on a title is perfect

And then a McLaren Mercedes partnership. It would be perfect

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Jambier wrote:
28 Sep 2019, 14:57
Nonserviam85 wrote:
28 Sep 2019, 11:34
Great news for McLaren, I start to believe more and more now that Mercedes will retire as a team and stay as a PU provider only
Exactly the same.

Mercedes has nothing to win to stay in 2021. They must fire people, they risk to lose.
So ending in 2020 on a title is perfect

And then a McLaren Mercedes partnership. It would be perfect
Maybe McLaren will take some staff from Mercedes, if they can get people that would be relevant.
Q: (Stefano Mancini – La Stampa) Kimi, will you help Vettel to win his championship this year?
Kimi Raikkonen: I can only drive one car, obviously. 
@2018 Singapore Grand Prix drivers press conference.

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Ground Effect wrote:
28 Sep 2019, 15:00
Jambier wrote:
28 Sep 2019, 14:57
Nonserviam85 wrote:
28 Sep 2019, 11:34
Great news for McLaren, I start to believe more and more now that Mercedes will retire as a team and stay as a PU provider only
Exactly the same.

Mercedes has nothing to win to stay in 2021. They must fire people, they risk to lose.
So ending in 2020 on a title is perfect

And then a McLaren Mercedes partnership. It would be perfect
Maybe McLaren will take some staff from Mercedes, if they can get people that would be relevant.
Yes, some key members, Hamilton to drive along Norris, Mercedes engine.

All this make totaly sense, with Merc focusing on Formula E

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Jambier wrote:
28 Sep 2019, 15:02
Ground Effect wrote:
28 Sep 2019, 15:00
Jambier wrote:
28 Sep 2019, 14:57


Exactly the same.

Mercedes has nothing to win to stay in 2021. They must fire people, they risk to lose.
So ending in 2020 on a title is perfect

And then a McLaren Mercedes partnership. It would be perfect
Maybe McLaren will take some staff from Mercedes, if they can get people that would be relevant.
Yes, some key members, Hamilton to drive along Norris, Mercedes engine.

All this make totaly sense, with Merc focusing on Formula E
Didn’t Toto come out and say today that Mercedes are not looking at exiting as a team?

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Good P6 and P8

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Great qualifying session for the team. With the penalty for Verstappen they start 5th & 7th, both on the clean side of the grid - good chance of points if they can both keep their nose clean on lap one!

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Those are Hulkenberg, grosjean, crashteppan that I afraid of.... :(

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Incredible response to a tricky FP1 & FP2
Q: (Stefano Mancini – La Stampa) Kimi, will you help Vettel to win his championship this year?
Kimi Raikkonen: I can only drive one car, obviously. 
@2018 Singapore Grand Prix drivers press conference.

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Pany wrote:
28 Sep 2019, 08:48
Nobody think of Mercedes to retire before domination terminate?
Why would anybody pull out of F1 Before Liberty turn it from a money pit into a golden goose? The whole Idea from Liberty and the Cap is to make the teams profitable. That in turns drives the values of the teams up.

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ScottR267 wrote:
28 Sep 2019, 15:12
Jambier wrote:
28 Sep 2019, 15:02
Ground Effect wrote:
28 Sep 2019, 15:00


Maybe McLaren will take some staff from Mercedes, if they can get people that would be relevant.
Yes, some key members, Hamilton to drive along Norris, Mercedes engine.

All this make totaly sense, with Merc focusing on Formula E
Didn’t Toto come out and say today that Mercedes are not looking at exiting as a team?
Yup.

Wolff:
We have a strong set-up as an engine supplier, which goes back a very long time, and we have a works scheme that that has been has been doing well and both have merit jointly and independently.

So this is not, just to avoid any misunderstanding, this is not a point where we could spread our bets and say we may stay as an engine supplier, not as a works team, this is not what I’m saying, we enjoy being a works team.
https://www.racefans.net/2019/09/28/mer ... customers/

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Qualifying showed again that there isn’t a lot between the team and the rest of the midfield... Great result, but Renault aren’t too far away from us.

The team needs to keep working hard... It won’t be easy or a given to keep P4... We still have a fight in our hands with Renault which will make the remainder races of the season really fun to watch!


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Jambier wrote:
28 Sep 2019, 14:57
Nonserviam85 wrote:
28 Sep 2019, 11:34
Great news for McLaren, I start to believe more and more now that Mercedes will retire as a team and stay as a PU provider only
Exactly the same.

Mercedes has nothing to win to stay in 2021. They must fire people, they risk to lose.
So ending in 2020 on a title is perfect

And then a McLaren Mercedes partnership. It would be perfect
Its a backward step if they keep the same engine regs. Next year Renault will have more power than Merc thats for sure. Merc had 3 years of advantage and now they are massively behind Ferrari. Cant see them catching Ferrari. The whinge from Hamilton and Wolff about lacking power is a so refreshing.

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McMika98 wrote:
28 Sep 2019, 16:25
Jambier wrote:
28 Sep 2019, 14:57
Nonserviam85 wrote:
28 Sep 2019, 11:34
Great news for McLaren, I start to believe more and more now that Mercedes will retire as a team and stay as a PU provider only
Exactly the same.

Mercedes has nothing to win to stay in 2021. They must fire people, they risk to lose.
So ending in 2020 on a title is perfect

And then a McLaren Mercedes partnership. It would be perfect
Its a backward step if they keep the same engine regs. Next year Renault will have more power than Merc thats for sure. Merc had 3 years of advantage and now they are massively behind Ferrari. Cant see them catching Ferrari. The whinge from Hamilton and Wolff about lacking power is a so refreshing.
They may have more power than Mercedes have this year, but Mercedes will also be using next years engine.
When arguing with a fool, be sure the other person is not doing the same thing.

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Mercedes is the engine to have in the midfield. It's the cheapest and has the best reliability. Engine penalties are rare if you have an AMG in the back.

But, from all the teams on the grid, McLaren never had a good engine swap... they always seem to loose a season.

2020 might also be a bit less easy now, with Renault already knowing that data could benefit Mercedes, so expect some RedBull-ish back and forth during next year.

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McMika98 wrote:
Jambier wrote:
28 Sep 2019, 14:57
Nonserviam85 wrote:
28 Sep 2019, 11:34
Great news for McLaren, I start to believe more and more now that Mercedes will retire as a team and stay as a PU provider only
Exactly the same.

Mercedes has nothing to win to stay in 2021. They must fire people, they risk to lose.
So ending in 2020 on a title is perfect

And then a McLaren Mercedes partnership. It would be perfect
Its a backward step if they keep the same engine regs. Next year Renault will have more power than Merc thats for sure. Merc had 3 years of advantage and now they are massively behind Ferrari. Cant see them catching Ferrari. The whinge from Hamilton and Wolff about lacking power is a so refreshing.
You can’t make that type of assertion... We don’t know if Renault will be more powerful than Mercedes.

Has Renault closed the gap to them? Absolutely... But in F1, no one stays static and Mercedes hasn’t stopped developing their engine either.

All the engines are converging and soon there won’t be a lot of difference between them... Mercedes knows that the difference with Ferrari is on deployment and surely they are already working on their own solution (just as Renault and Honda are doing for sure).

The difference between the Mercedes and the Ferrari engine this season has been exacerbated by the different concepts between the teams... The Ferrari not only has more power, but it’s also less draggy than Mercedes and that multiplies the effect of the additional horsepower they have.


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