Red Bull RB10 Renault

[Just_a_fan]

That's the RB8 from 2 years ago...

[performergr]

sorry guys but i found this pic at 2014 film day and i believe that they make holes to make a video at the track, not on the truck

sorry again

[Alonso Fan]

No, its the rb8, because they are filming the rb10 on Monday and the rb8 on Tuesday according to skysportsf1. They cant film the rb10 on Tuesday because it has to go back to the UK apparently

[Gridlock]

Plus using the RB8 means they can do what they want as it's not covered by regs. (Edit - and it has a reliable lump )

Wonder how wide the FW will be

[Alonso Fan]

Wonder if they will use old or new engine?

[Per]

It's a 2012 car so it must fulfill 2012 regulations when used in any sort of test, as per article 22.2, sporting regs. So no smaller front wings or different engines.

22.2 Testing of Previous Cars (TPC) shall be defined as any track running time, not part of an Event, in which a competitor entered in the Championship participates (or in which a third party participates on behalf of a competitor), using cars which were designed and built in order to comply with the 2010, 2011 or 2012 Formula One Technical Regulations.

TPC may only be carried out with cars built to the specification of the period and only tyres manufactured specifically for this purpose may be used.

[ringo]

Noticed something interesting about the diffuser height in the relation to the wheel. Redbull may be looking at using the air movement from inside the rear wheels to interact with the diffuser. I have also witnessed that they have also been using flowvis paint on the inside of the rear wheel as well as the diffuser but not at the same time indicating that they are looking at each side of the interaction.

What do you guys think. Am I barking up the wrong tree or are Redbull looking to use the air pumping ability of a spinning wheel to increase diffuser efficiency?

I was consdering something similar..
The tyre wall would be acting as the diffuser walls. To add to that, i think they have been doing something on a larger scale these past years, when it comes to the whole floor and not just the diffuser.

As for the elipse jokes, lol. I'll stick to my guns on the overall shape of the car. The 2014 regs did nothing to divert the design fundamentals of the RB cars. They will continue to have the downforce advantage.

[gandharva]

pure RB10 sound:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDvGXmaJgP0

sounds working pretty fine to me.

Yes, that was my first thought too. In all videos during regular testing the engine did sound way more irregular. Also I think those are the highest revs (0:18-0:24) I ever heard this season from a Renault engine.

[Thunder]

The Updates they bolted on for the last Day didn't work according to AMuS. Vettel said they just couldn't get the Car right. Before it was good.

[iotar__]

AMuS said a while ago, maybe some updates RBR brought in the last day didnt work...

But yesterday Marko + AMuS said:

Ohne das Motorproblem wäre Red Bull wieder ganz vorne dabei, behauptet Marko. "Ich glaube, wir haben ein gutes Auto. Es gibt Kurvenmessungen, vor allem in den schnellen Kurven, da war das Auto wieder das schnellste. Aber man braucht einen Motor, der funktioniert. Wir müssen jetzt diese Anfangsphase überstehen."

Google translation

Without the engine problem Red Bull would be very front there again, claiming Marko. "I think we have a good car. There are curve measurements, especially in the fast corners because the car was again the fastest. But you need a motor that works. We now need this initial phase survive."

It's Marko but even if it's true (why not - Williams is as fast as Mercedes) it's rather meaningless if separated from everything else. How are they doing on straights, during starts, in slow corners, under breaking, how is tyre management, low/high fuel performance, how long can they maintain this cornering speed, what about fuel consumption etc.

Lotus said they were as fast as Merc in fast corners, it means little, it can be used only as: car has potential. Marketing twisting of reality similar to "tyres are slowing us down", this time it's "engine is slowing us down" because we're so fast in corners. Another exercise in separating yourself from actual on track performance after "Flavio's fault", costs nothing to say that they would be in front because no one can verify that.

[bonjon1979]

Interesting and quite contradictory, isn't it?:

"The Red Bull does not look good," an experienced source, trackside in Bahrain last week, was quoted by Germany's Auto Motor und Sport.
"Nothing seemed right -- the coordination of engine, gears and setup did not fit together. Sebastian (Vettel) was always sliding and spinning his wheels, while the Williams was like on rails," he added.

Button a couple of days before:
“I was driving with Ricciardo for quite a few laps and he couldn’t get past me on the straights. He overtook me around the outside of Turn 11 instead, which is a high-speed left-hander. I’ve never seen anything like that before,”

I think at the time Ricciardo was on a new set of tyres and was lapping 3-4 seconds a lap quicker than button once he got clear of him. Fresh tyres, much less fuel on board then I think any car could zip around the outside of another. Doesn't really mean much.

[Blackout]

Still talking about this story... roll: Riccardo was on a 20 laps run like Button... but his laptimes were very interesting, not the fact he overtook Button in turn11.

[skwdenyer]

There's something interesting going on with the stay, not least because it is clearly incapable of accommodating any significant vertical compressive load. It can only buckle, so what is its purpose?

Assuming for a moment that RB are not running some sort of infringing front end, the t-tray bending stiffness must be inherent rather than stay-supplied. In that case, what purpose the stay? Is there a regulatory requirement for a stay? Or is it just a safety in case of "snagging"?

In addition, it seems strange to have a top cover on that part. Something is afoot

Also interesting vents in the "pod" to the left of the stay in that picture, although they might in fact be fins of a heatsink from whatever device seems to have a laser warning label on it mounted to that "pod" of course... are those laser ride-height sensors?

[aleks_ader]

Also interesting vents in the "pod" to the left of the stay in that picture, although they might in fact be fins of a heatsink from whatever device seems to have a laser warning label on it mounted to that "pod" of course... are those laser ride-height sensors?

That is transponder.

[neilbah]

There's something interesting going on with the stay, not least because it is clearly incapable of accommodating any significant vertical compressive load. It can only buckle, so what is its purpose?

to allow the desired amount of flex whilst avoiding so much it breaks? essentially making it sprung like a leaf suspension? might be why it can be changed easily with the access panel.