2024 Mclaren Formula 1 Team

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If they all flex the same amount, what's the point doing anything about it?

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Ben1980 wrote:
18 Jul 2024, 23:26
If they all flex the same amount, what's the point doing anything about it?
It's just Horner at it again, clearly things are getting too much for the Red Bull. The rules are determined by the static load test the FIA devised. Any data gained from this will be used to decide what, if any, action or measuring set, can be used in the future to take away a so-called "ground effect" of the FW.

I think Mercedes will be our biggest threat this weekend but it is looking good, all things handled properly, for the win. It will be interesting to see how much Oscar has learned about looking after the tyres in the race after last year where he slid backwards, somewhat hindered by floor damage also.

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BMMR61 wrote:
19 Jul 2024, 01:14
Ben1980 wrote:
18 Jul 2024, 23:26
If they all flex the same amount, what's the point doing anything about it?
It's just Horner at it again, clearly things are getting too much for the Red Bull. The rules are determined by the static load test the FIA devised. Any data gained from this will be used to decide what, if any, action or measuring set, can be used in the future to take away a so-called "ground effect" of the FW.

I think Mercedes will be our biggest threat this weekend but it is looking good, all things handled properly, for the win. It will be interesting to see how much Oscar has learned about looking after the tyres in the race after last year where he slid backwards, somewhat hindered by floor damage also.
If we flex too much then there's no point being sour. I'd want RB investigated if they were "bending" the rules.
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Red Bull is obviously feeling the pressure so they are grasping at straws. A minor hole in the rear brake duct and this flexing.

Other teams should start to complain about Red Bull super DRS or other things they do well.

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Ben1980 wrote:
18 Jul 2024, 23:26
If they all flex the same amount, what's the point doing anything about it?
Do they all flex the same amount though? We will get the answer soon enough.
Call a spade, a spade.

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Ben1980 wrote:
18 Jul 2024, 23:26
If they all flex the same amount, what's the point doing anything about it?
They clearly do not, which is why this is being done.

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If I recall correctly, Mclaren recently opened a new composites facility for their carbon fibre?
Just a fan's point of view

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CjC wrote:
19 Jul 2024, 11:01
If I recall correctly, Mclaren recently opened a new composites facility for their carbon fibre?
IIRC it's their very old factory...

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mwillems wrote:
19 Jul 2024, 01:19
BMMR61 wrote:
19 Jul 2024, 01:14
Ben1980 wrote:
18 Jul 2024, 23:26
If they all flex the same amount, what's the point doing anything about it?
It's just Horner at it again, clearly things are getting too much for the Red Bull. The rules are determined by the static load test the FIA devised. Any data gained from this will be used to decide what, if any, action or measuring set, can be used in the future to take away a so-called "ground effect" of the FW.

I think Mercedes will be our biggest threat this weekend but it is looking good, all things handled properly, for the win. It will be interesting to see how much Oscar has learned about looking after the tyres in the race after last year where he slid backwards, somewhat hindered by floor damage also.
If we flex too much then there's no point being sour. I'd want RB investigated if they were "bending" the rules.
What baseline are the FIA going to use for this though? And at what point does the flex actually generate gains for a car? Too many unknowns to police whether a team gains an advantage or not...

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CjC
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Lucky wrote:
19 Jul 2024, 11:24
In fact I was kind of expecting it.
We probably won’t seen anything till Singapore apart from low drag solutions.

Still disappointing when you consider all the talk from Mercedes regarding their upgrades and what Red Bull have brought to Hungary.
Just a fan's point of view

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very dissapointing, either their new found route with the new fw's cancelled other coming updates, or there must be something big on the way, they havent delivered anything in a long time, except a new fw, but that has got to be signed of long time ago, i had clearly expected a new floor already to go with the new fw
CjC wrote:
19 Jul 2024, 11:36
Lucky wrote:
19 Jul 2024, 11:24
In fact I was kind of expecting it.
We probably won’t seen anything till Singapore apart from low drag solutions.

Still disappointing when you consider all the talk from Mercedes regarding their upgrades and what Red Bull have brought to Hungary.

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f1rules wrote:
19 Jul 2024, 11:54
very dissapointing, either their new found route with the new fw's cancelled other coming updates, or there must be something big on the way, they havent delivered anything in a long time, except a new fw, but that has got to be signed of long time ago, i had clearly expected a new floor already to go with the new fw
CjC wrote:
19 Jul 2024, 11:36
Lucky wrote:
19 Jul 2024, 11:24
In fact I was kind of expecting it.
We probably won’t seen anything till Singapore apart from low drag solutions.

Still disappointing when you consider all the talk from Mercedes regarding their upgrades and what Red Bull have brought to Hungary.
Yea I thought a new floor would have been due to arrive soon.

As you say maybe the new direction has thrown them off course
Just a fan's point of view

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f1rules wrote:
19 Jul 2024, 11:54
very dissapointing, either their new found route with the new fw's cancelled other coming updates, or there must be something big on the way, they havent delivered anything in a long time, except a new fw, but that has got to be signed of long time ago, i had clearly expected a new floor already to go with the new fw
CjC wrote:
19 Jul 2024, 11:36
Lucky wrote:
19 Jul 2024, 11:24
In fact I was kind of expecting it.
We probably won’t seen anything till Singapore apart from low drag solutions.

Still disappointing when you consider all the talk from Mercedes regarding their upgrades and what Red Bull have brought to Hungary.
Or the far more likely, they are near the ceiling of performance for this regulation set. There's no clear "magic bullets" anymore. Mercedes has brought plenty of upgrades, that's true, but they had clear limitations with their car, and even then, on the surface there have not been changes that were as significant overall as McLaren's Miami package.

As for RedBull, it was about time the brought something significant on their car. It's been rumored for months at this point. Surprised it took them this long.

Ben1980
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One thing we can't criticise the team for us upgrades being brought at the right time.

Mercedes have been playing catch up ( going for gold, anyone remember that?) And it obvious that if things are done well, time can be saved, as shown by Mclaren themselves.

But, upgrades dont alway cause big improvements. So, its not sonething to cling on to, confidently.