Ferrari SF23

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organic wrote:
17 Mar 2023, 13:03

OMISSIS

Also changes for round 2 - Saudi Arabia:

https://i.imgur.com/06XYjHg.jpeg

Not even listing the sidepod change :mrgreen:
In my opinion it is the contrary.

The higher image is the one of the launch and the Bahrain race. You can notice from the kind of prodruding of the SIS, very sharp. We all noticed it since car launch.

Instead, for Jeddah it seems Ferrari is a little bit fatter just under the sidepods inlets making the SIS less visible.

Maybe it has been done to get an aero gain, maybe to avoid to burn the 3rd ECU.

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I think like vanja and f1nac pointed out the changes are not real but optical illusions from the angle. It doesn't make sense to me to bring this sort of change so early in the season so more likely than not it's an error from nicolas

Listed change on the document at the floor edge


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I remember something similar happened last year where in some pictures it looked like the sidepod had shrunk. Just happened earlier this year it seems :D :oops:

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gordonthegun wrote:
17 Mar 2023, 14:19
organic wrote:
17 Mar 2023, 13:03

OMISSIS

Also changes for round 2 - Saudi Arabia:

https://i.imgur.com/06XYjHg.jpeg

Not even listing the sidepod change :mrgreen:
In my opinion it is the contrary.

The higher image is the one of the launch and the Bahrain race. You can notice from the kind of prodruding of the SIS, very sharp. We all noticed it since car launch.

Instead, for Jeddah it seems Ferrari is a little bit fatter just under the sidepods inlets making the SIS less visible.

Maybe it has been done to get an aero gain, maybe to avoid to burn the 3rd ECU.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FraraAIXoAE ... name=large
They must be different side pods. Can’t just be camera angles, one looks smooth and consistent whilst the other appears to have a dramatic change in angle at quite a distinctive line

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gordonthegun wrote:
17 Mar 2023, 14:19
organic wrote:
17 Mar 2023, 13:03

OMISSIS

Also changes for round 2 - Saudi Arabia:

https://i.imgur.com/06XYjHg.jpeg

Not even listing the sidepod change :mrgreen:
In my opinion it is the contrary.

The higher image is the one of the launch and the Bahrain race. You can notice from the kind of prodruding of the SIS, very sharp. We all noticed it since car launch.

Instead, for Jeddah it seems Ferrari is a little bit fatter just under the sidepods inlets making the SIS less visible.

Maybe it has been done to get an aero gain, maybe to avoid to burn the 3rd ECU.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FraraAIXoAE ... name=large
These differences could be caused by shadows.

Jeddah photo #1 follow the profile to the right and you will see that the shadow continues to the Jeddah label on the bottom right corner.

Jeddah photo #2 the angle is slightly different but look at both photos and you will see the Jeddah photo has shadows above the shell logo. However ignore the darker portion and follow where the black arrow is located. Just look at the curve ignoring the colour and you will see that it's the same curve. If there was the adjustment then you would expect an angle change but it's not there.

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Vinlarr89 wrote:
17 Mar 2023, 14:53
gordonthegun wrote:
17 Mar 2023, 14:19
organic wrote:
17 Mar 2023, 13:03

OMISSIS

Also changes for round 2 - Saudi Arabia:

https://i.imgur.com/06XYjHg.jpeg

Not even listing the sidepod change :mrgreen:
In my opinion it is the contrary.

The higher image is the one of the launch and the Bahrain race. You can notice from the kind of prodruding of the SIS, very sharp. We all noticed it since car launch.

Instead, for Jeddah it seems Ferrari is a little bit fatter just under the sidepods inlets making the SIS less visible.

Maybe it has been done to get an aero gain, maybe to avoid to burn the 3rd ECU.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FraraAIXoAE ... name=large
They must be different side pods. Can’t just be camera angles, one looks smooth and consistent whilst the other appears to have a dramatic change in angle at quite a distinctive line
The angles and corners in the Shell logo aligned with the edge of the shadow are augmenting the illusion of a sharp crease along the sidepod.

In any case, such a sharp crease (as perceived) wouldn’t meet the minimum radius rule. RB have a real “sharp” crease on its lower sidepods and these are quite rounded so as to satisfy the min. radius rule.

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ing. wrote:
17 Mar 2023, 16:53
Vinlarr89 wrote:
17 Mar 2023, 14:53
gordonthegun wrote:
17 Mar 2023, 14:19


In my opinion it is the contrary.

The higher image is the one of the launch and the Bahrain race. You can notice from the kind of prodruding of the SIS, very sharp. We all noticed it since car launch.

Instead, for Jeddah it seems Ferrari is a little bit fatter just under the sidepods inlets making the SIS less visible.

Maybe it has been done to get an aero gain, maybe to avoid to burn the 3rd ECU.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FraraAIXoAE ... name=large
They must be different side pods. Can’t just be camera angles, one looks smooth and consistent whilst the other appears to have a dramatic change in angle at quite a distinctive line
The angles and corners in the Shell logo aligned with the edge of the shadow are augmenting the illusion of a sharp crease along the sidepod.
I agree. There is no crease that I can see. The sidepod hasn't changed at all imo. This is also somewhat supported by the lack of any notation in the mandatory update reports that the teams have to submit.
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ing. wrote:
17 Mar 2023, 16:53
Vinlarr89 wrote:
17 Mar 2023, 14:53
gordonthegun wrote:
17 Mar 2023, 14:19


In my opinion it is the contrary.

The higher image is the one of the launch and the Bahrain race. You can notice from the kind of prodruding of the SIS, very sharp. We all noticed it since car launch.

Instead, for Jeddah it seems Ferrari is a little bit fatter just under the sidepods inlets making the SIS less visible.

Maybe it has been done to get an aero gain, maybe to avoid to burn the 3rd ECU.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FraraAIXoAE ... name=large
They must be different side pods. Can’t just be camera angles, one looks smooth and consistent whilst the other appears to have a dramatic change in angle at quite a distinctive line
The angles and corners in the Shell logo aligned with the edge of the shadow are augmenting the illusion of a sharp crease along the sidepod.

In any case, such a sharp crease (as perceived) wouldn’t meet the minimum radius rule. RB have a real “sharp” crease on its lower sidepods and these are quite rounded so as to satisfy the min. radius rule.
Indeed. The shadow meets the corner of the yellow quite perfectly...follow the white outline and it doesn't change how it would if the body work had that crease. I love the way our mind connects dots and fills in the blanks...most of the time it does it correctly and that is how we interact with the world quickly without having to contemplate space and objects.

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The guy who first "noticed" the sidepod change is now saying "my bad", there's nothing here fellas.

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F1T is the best filter, lots of click-bait BS out there 8)

Twitter "pundits" are getting worse than MSM :mrgreen:
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Sevach wrote:
17 Mar 2023, 17:37
https://twitter.com/NicolasF1i/status/1 ... 14336?s=20

The guy who first "noticed" the sidepod change is now saying "my bad", there's nothing here fellas.
He’s usually very good but I wonder if he’s on site taking his own pics or uses supplied pics. If he was on site he would surely have noticed this was just a shadow effect.

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Its a drought when the big development to discuss is a few shadows on a side pod...
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