Ferrari F14T

[Abarth]

I'm not really knowledgeable about aero, just as a disclaimer

Your comments made me think about the Ferrari FW. Why should they develop such a "simple" design? Could it be that they developed something to put just on the car, with an outwash design, in order not to show their cards.
And later on (should be the last test methinks) bolt the final spec FW on which will be inwash, to convey as much air under the car as possible?

[Thunder]

And dump all the Data they got from Testing in the Trash Bin? Highly unlikely.

[Huntresa]

How is this FW simple ? To me it looks like their ordinary FW that they used last year bar smaller and short and fewer slits in it but other then that it has almost the same endplates etc.

[Lycoming]

Why should they develop such a "simple" design? Could it be that they developed something to put just on the car, with an outwash design, in order not to show their cards.

If the idea is to keep a trump card up your sleeve until the last possible moment, it doesn't work because if you don't track test it, you don't know whether or not it's actually a trump card, or just garbage.

[Abarth]

If the idea is to keep a trump card up your sleeve until the last possible moment, it doesn't work because if you don't track test it, you don't know whether or not it's actually a trump card, or just garbage.

Of course it would be rather incredible.

But then, there are four more days for testing, and afaik it's done regularly (although usually smaller changes, not such radical ones).

I was only thinking loud though....

[stefan_]

Winter Testing 2014 - Session 2, Day 3 - Bahrain (21.02.2014)

[CBeck113]

For me they have put on an aero package that they know, very simple to get enough DF for testing, but not to show where they are going with their development. Remember that they built a new tunnel and also need to test it in the real world, so knowing that the correlation is right between the wind tunnel and track will let them implement a more aggressive update program throughout the season.
I personally have the feeling that they are sandbagging a bit; they don't want the competition to see how fast they really are.
Having confidence in you simulation data makes the risk of holding back your updates until the last minute lower.

[Abarth]

And the monkey seat didn't make it for long it seems?

[Mr.G]

Interesting placement of the pitot tubes (in fron of the leading edge of RW). I don't remember that somebody do this before. Or am I wrong?

[F1.Ru]

For me they have put on an aero package that they know, very simple to get enough DF for testing, but not to show where they are going with their development. Remember that they built a new tunnel and also need to test it in the real world, so knowing that the correlation is right between the wind tunnel and track will let them implement a more aggressive update program throughout the season.
I personally have the feeling that they are sandbagging a bit; they don't want the competition to see how fast they really are.
Having confidence in you simulation data makes the risk of holding back your updates until the last minute lower.

Ya usually early days in practices team opt to sandbagging but with so much changes in regulation ... .every team must want to know what they really capable of doing. And also remember this whole time is devoted to just checking different component's reliability and their overall performance. So sandbagging theory is not right now applicable. yes all the team are not pushing as they will push in the race because that is practices and with limited knowledge over their car reliability they will not certainly try that now. Simplicity is beautiful if it borne the desired result..... so love the current Front Wing Design of F14T ..... they are doing what they ought to do.

And not performing does not always mean that any team is sandbagging .....remember the struggle of RBR last season and McLaren in 2010. While they are not doing awesome lap times in practices lead people to think that they are sandbagging But in reality they are struggling with their car.

Edit: plz see this post : Ferrari not chasing performance yet

[F1.Ru]

Interesting placement of the pitot tubes (in fron of the leading edge of RW). I don't remember that somebody do this before. Or am I wrong?

I think they are evaluating the air pressure and benefits that they want to derive from the Monkey Seat and they can also see how the hot air is inducing the air flow before the RW and after the engine cover.

[zoro_f1]

[miguelalvesreis]

For me they have put on an aero package that they know, very simple to get enough DF for testing, but not to show where they are going with their development. Remember that they built a new tunnel and also need to test it in the real world, so knowing that the correlation is right between the wind tunnel and track will let them implement a more aggressive update program throughout the season.
I personally have the feeling that they are sandbagging a bit; they don't want the competition to see how fast they really are.
Having confidence in you simulation data makes the risk of holding back your updates until the last minute lower.

Ya usually early days in practices team opt to sandbagging but with so much changes in regulation ... .every team must want to know what they really capable of doing. And also remember this whole time is devoted to just checking different component's reliability and their overall performance. So sandbagging theory is not right now applicable. yes all the team are not pushing as they will push in the race because that is practices and with limited knowledge over their car reliability they will not certainly try that now. Simplicity is beautiful if it borne the desired result..... so love the current Front Wing Design of F14T ..... they are doing what they ought to do.

And not performing does not always mean that any team is sandbagging .....remember the struggle of RBR last season and McLaren in 2010. While they are not doing awesome lap times in practices lead people to think that they are sandbagging But in reality they are struggling with their car.

Edit: plz see this post : Ferrari not chasing performance yet

Furthermore, I think we have to consider that they have to start with a "simple" baseline. They were still checking if the WT data was well correlated in track. With a complex aero package would be difficult to assess so.

[CBeck113]

Ya usually early days in practices team opt to sandbagging but with so much changes in regulation ... .every team must want to know what they really capable of doing. And also remember this whole time is devoted to just checking different component's reliability and their overall performance. So sandbagging theory is not right now applicable. yes all the team are not pushing as they will push in the race because that is practices and with limited knowledge over their car reliability they will not certainly try that now. Simplicity is beautiful if it borne the desired result..... so love the current Front Wing Design of F14T ..... they are doing what they ought to do.

And not performing does not always mean that any team is sandbagging .....remember the struggle of RBR last season and McLaren in 2010. While they are not doing awesome lap times in practices lead people to think that they are sandbagging But in reality they are struggling with their car.

Edit: plz see this post : Ferrari not chasing performance yet

We're saying the same thing, just i tried to keep a positive tone for their performance

[diemaster]

rumours that it might be the seat for Kimi thats causing problems...
or
According to @ Autosprint, Ferrari changed the engine last night of your F14-T, because between Jerez and the first two days of accumulated Bahrain 1900 KM

this is may be new engine integration

autosport : We haven't seen Kimi Raikkonen out in the Ferrari for a while. So far, he has done just 12 laps. This is because of a telemetry glitch. The team is taking a while to check and re-programme the system to ensure everything is as it should be.