Ferrari 150° Italia

[ESPImperium]

Alsos looks like they will be bringing a new chassis to Turkey as they will have been able to do 100km with this and a TV day as well, giving them 150km total if im right. Meaning this could plausably be chassis 290, whitch will be given to Alonso as Massa was given 289 for the start of the season.

Whitch means chassis distances are as follows for the 150° Italia:

287: 3,789.170
288: 5,427.169
289: 2,334.650

Whitch should equal 11,550.989 for Ferrari to date.

Also the car has a Red Bull style dip in the middle of the rear wing now.

What are the differences between the different chassis??

The answer is absoutley nothing due to the banning of B Spec chassis. There will be a few changes, but not the whole scale changes that there once used to be as in years gone by Ferarri used to save weight by as much as 9-12KG on B Spec chassis, but now its more like 1-2Kg but thats all down to the lay up techniques that vary slightly from component to component, whitch is normal in chassis making.

[amouzouris]

Alsos looks like they will be bringing a new chassis to Turkey as they will have been able to do 100km with this and a TV day as well, giving them 150km total if im right. Meaning this could plausably be chassis 290, whitch will be given to Alonso as Massa was given 289 for the start of the season.

Whitch means chassis distances are as follows for the 150° Italia:

287: 3,789.170
288: 5,427.169
289: 2,334.650

Whitch should equal 11,550.989 for Ferrari to date.

Also the car has a Red Bull style dip in the middle of the rear wing now.

What are the differences between the different chassis??

The answer is absoutley nothing due to the banning of B Spec chassis. There will be a few changes, but not the whole scale changes that there once used to be as in years gone by Ferarri used to save weight by as much as 9-12KG on B Spec chassis, but now its more like 1-2Kg but thats all down to the lay up techniques that vary slightly from component to component, whitch is normal in chassis making.

Thank you ESPI!

[Tim.Wright]

Assymetric brake ducts:

This word needs banned from the forum

The caster angle in the front suspension induces all sorts of asymmetries in the front axle when there is steering angle. I doubt they are asymmetrical

tim

[oli]

Assymetric brake ducts:

This word needs banned from the forum

The caster angle in the front suspension induces all sorts of asymmetries in the front axle when there is steering angle. I doubt they are asymmetrical

tim

It looks like this due to camber angle, I reckon

[timbo]

Also the car has a Red Bull style dip in the middle of the rear wing now.

It was always there. Actually it seems there's no new aerodynamic parts on the car, but it also seems they are running more rake.

[aladinmk]

Isn't it interesting how ferrari always finds more testing time ???

[amouzouris]

Since they weren't allowed to have any new parts why does it say on the website that they tested a new front wing?

[timbo]

Since they weren't allowed to have any new parts why does it say on the website that they tested a new front wing?

It is journalism, moreover, it is internet journalism. I find errors of facts and interpretation very likely))

[ESPImperium]

Also the car has a Red Bull style dip in the middle of the rear wing now.

It was always there. Actually it seems there's no new aerodynamic parts on the car, but it also seems they are running more rake.

I was stating the obvious, but it seems more extreme now to launch somehow.

Isn't it interesting how ferrari always finds more testing time ???

All teams have the same loopholes. They have up to 100km avalable per new chassis shakedown and up to six 50km TV days. Red Bull used 2 TV days up at Jerez in pre season testing and ran Vettel for 100km that day (as you can combine 2 days milage to gain more milage) as did Ferrari on the same day. Hispania got arround the testing days by going to Monza with Pirelli and running for 2 days there pre season, no one knows the distance they covered there as some rumors suggest they were running with a ultra low downforce setup that was illegal just for Pirellis testing program.

Most teams usually use up all their testing days and shakedown days on the quiet as they tires they must use for them are ones that under Bridgestone gave enough grip for about one good lap, and then fell away by 2 seconds a lap after that, but under Pirelli they are the other way, they are as hard as nails seemingly and just dont warm up and dont give a reprosentitive lap time, think of them as 3 steps harder than the Pirelli Hard compound seemingly.

[wesley123]

so that means that for every chassis they build they can run 100km with it? so effectively that would mean that the more chassis they build the more testing they can do

[Florio]

so that means that for every chassis they build they can run 100km with it? so effectively that would mean that the more chassis they build the more testing they can do

Yes, but then the cost of all the chassis' and testing then is the reason they don't all exploit this.

[ESPImperium]

so that means that for every chassis they build they can run 100km with it? so effectively that would mean that the more chassis they build the more testing they can do

Yes, but then the cost of all the chassis' and testing then is the reason they don't all exploit this.

Pretty much the reason they dont do it regularly.

A cost of a 2009 Toyota TF109 was arround $650,000 as was reported by Toyota. So if you put 5 new chassis on the grid each year; thats $3m, plus the additional costs. So isnt really economicaly feasable.

And with the proposed rules where teams may soon be forced to produce between 7 to 11 tubs over a two or three year period, shakedowns will soon be more meaningless.

Most teams will use their TV days and shakedown days, the fact that most are done quietly is something that says they arnt wanting to show off their cars as most shakedowns are done by test drivers. Ferrari do theirs with race drivers, the only team is Mercedes that does shakedowns with race drivers, but last year it was rumored that Anthony Davidson was drafted in for their last shakedown.

Shaking-down is one way to circumnavagate the rules, but the fact that its so expencive is the way to prevent it.

[bhall]

Also the car has a Red Bull style dip in the middle of the rear wing now.

That's been there since the car's launch.

[HampusA]

Ferrari will introduce a new front wing, a new rear wing and modified brake ducts in the upcoming race according to Autosport.com

[donskar]

I think this from autosport.com is the prelude to Tombazis being replaced:

Tombazis added: "We have realised, even if it's not a pleasure to admit, that over the last years we have become more conservative, less aggressive with development, and we've brought forward less courageous ideas.

"I think that's justified criticism, unfortunately. Our structure had gradually become more complicated, and many people who need to keep their minds free in order to work on performance were distracted by less important things. After this cold shower we've stepped up a gear to be focused 1,000% on the things that matter. We already have some very interesting projects."

"Conservative" and disorganized ("distracted by less important things.") Enzo would approve.

Who will be the next lead tech guy at Ferrari? Pat Fry? Giorgio Ascanelli? Paolo Cantone? A.N.Other? Are Gustav Brunner and Enrique Scalabroni still around?