[ 2020 ] Mclaren F1 Team - Renault

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Macklaren wrote:
09 Mar 2020, 23:10
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09 Mar 2020, 21:19
Just read the interview with Chase Carey about past issues and fixes implemented. And I have to say that I do agree with him and what Liberty has done to F1 is just amazing given the time they had, especially the Drive to survive Netflix series. I now see people on the streets talking about F1 and the show, something not imaginable just a few years ago. I want to see this momentum going and for more seasons of Drive to survive.
I agree that DTS is a net positive but the "fake" commentary to build the narrative is super annoying and clearly targeted toward a casual viewer and not the hardcore F1 fan. Still, the little behind the scenes footage that was in DTS2 was cool. I can't help wondering if a Mclaren Unboxed style series (more visuals, less talking) entirely dedicated to behind-the-scenes would be much better than the current DTS format.
Agree. my opinion is that DTS should be there to gather more interest in F1, and then it is up to the teams got get those viewers to be their fans, with their content and performance, etc.

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They should put a sponsor on the front wing endplates. Looks kinda unfinished without it.

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ThePapayaJaguar wrote:
10 Mar 2020, 07:05
They should put a sponsor on the front wing endplates. Looks kinda unfinished without it.
I agree, I have always wondered why McLaren dont use the car to advertise themselves, a little 765LT on the FW endplates would fill a blank and promote their latest car

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Those who sell road cars for day-to-day use like Renault, Mercedes or Honda benefit out of branding on their F1 cars, as making consumers associate their brands with a mostly non-existent F1 link helps them sell cars to some extent. McLaren and Ferrari are unique in this respect; their brands are already connected to their F1 legacy. Let me put it like this - anyone who knows F1 potentially knows about the road cars of Ferrari and McLaren. The very presence of these two companies in F1 itself is promoting their road cars as a result, and they don't need to waste the advertising space on their cars with their own branding.

In fact, it is not just that, their road cars conversely promote F1! Imagine potential customers who don't know about F1 listing out supercars to choose from, and wanting to know why some brands are more famous and why they carry far higher value than most competitors (especially a relatively new brand like McLaren). They would eventually end up reading about the F1 history of these brands. And there are groups of people who cannot afford these cars but read a lot - like people who read automotive magazines or nerds who update themselves reading about technology in automotive sector. When they realise carbon fibre monocoque, brake steer, active suspension, active aero, etc are the fruits of technology that trickled down from the innovations in the pinnacle of motorsport, they might want to follow F1.

Coming to promoting individual models like 765LT that way....by doing so, McLaren would be giving away precious space to communicate with an audience who are probably already aware of the product (if not, they will know when drivers do hot laps on this model with some celebrity). That's ultimately ineffective; to promote such a niche high performance luxury product to a customer base outside the reach of F1, they have to use other mediums that would take the product to young, ultra-rich individuals - like a magazine placed in every first-class suite on select airliners or some literature one can find at a golf course or a five-star hotel suite.

Ps. Sorry for the long post. :D

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Since we are just around the corner form 1st GP of the season and Coca-Cola is not jet signed, what name (sponsor) would you guys love to see on that sidepod and the uniforms? For me it top picks are Microsoft, Boeing or Airbus, Under Armour, Amazon and Nike. Any one of them TBH (would love to buy some Under Armour gear with McLaren logo on it :) ).

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NiyolHuayra wrote:
10 Mar 2020, 22:48
Since we are just around the corner form 1st GP of the season and Coca-Cola is not jet signed, what name (sponsor) would you guys love to see on that sidepod and the uniforms? For me it top picks are Microsoft, Boeing or Airbus, Under Armour, Amazon and Nike. Any one of them TBH (would love to buy some Under Armour gear with McLaren logo on it :) ).
If I were the one seeking out sponsors for McLaren, I'd be knocking on the door of those perceived as being from the top end of town.

In the eyes of the fans, sticking with the upmarket brands intantly lifts McLaren's image.

Something along the line of "Hilton" splashed on the car would be a good fit.

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Just looking at it, it still seems to show last years characteristic of a stable rear end but a weak front end. On the plus side it looks quite stable over curbs, far more than last year, if this is true then hopefully it will allow the drivers to take more aggressive lines how red bull and Mercedes were able to do last year.

Lastly it didn't look like they were pushing very hard in any of that.

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Apparently a member of the McLaren team has had to self isolate

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NiyolHuayra wrote:
10 Mar 2020, 22:48
Since we are just around the corner form 1st GP of the season and Coca-Cola is not jet signed, what name (sponsor) would you guys love to see on that sidepod and the uniforms? For me it top picks are Microsoft, Boeing or Airbus, Under Armour, Amazon and Nike. Any one of them TBH (would love to buy some Under Armour gear with McLaren logo on it :) ).
Microsoft already have a deal with Renault and seeing that McLaren have existing deals with other tech companies (Dell, for instance) that’s not going to happen. Amazon also have a deal with the wider F1 sport with their AWS brand providing data so I’d imagine they’d stay away from individual teams sponsorship. I don’t see the what aerospace manufacturers would benefit from having F1 sponsorship, it’s not like your average F1 fan/spectator will be purchasing anything from them so don’t see that as a likelihood either.

Apparel manufacturers could be a possibility in the way that Puma do with Mercedes but given that the teams 2020 range of apparel has already been launched it would mean that they’d have to wait until 2021 now to have any meaningful involvement to promote their designs which, again, makes it an unattractive proposition this late in the day.

A mobile data/phone network (the likes of Vodafone, EE etc.) would be more beneficial and likely all round in my eyes. Given the impending roll-out of the “super fast” 5G networks around the world having their brand across the fastest F1 cars of all time (and probably for the foreseeable future) makes a lot of sense from a marketing perspective.

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Jackles-UK wrote:
11 Mar 2020, 12:47
NiyolHuayra wrote:
10 Mar 2020, 22:48
Since we are just around the corner form 1st GP of the season and Coca-Cola is not jet signed, what name (sponsor) would you guys love to see on that sidepod and the uniforms? For me it top picks are Microsoft, Boeing or Airbus, Under Armour, Amazon and Nike. Any one of them TBH (would love to buy some Under Armour gear with McLaren logo on it :) ).
Microsoft already have a deal with Renault and seeing that McLaren have existing deals with other tech companies (Dell, for instance) that’s not going to happen. Amazon also have a deal with the wider F1 sport with their AWS brand providing data so I’d imagine they’d stay away from individual teams sponsorship. I don’t see the what aerospace manufacturers would benefit from having F1 sponsorship, it’s not like your average F1 fan/spectator will be purchasing anything from them so don’t see that as a likelihood either.

Apparel manufacturers could be a possibility in the way that Puma do with Mercedes but given that the teams 2020 range of apparel has already been launched it would mean that they’d have to wait until 2021 now to have any meaningful involvement to promote their designs which, again, makes it an unattractive proposition this late in the day.

A mobile data/phone network (the likes of Vodafone, EE etc.) would be more beneficial and likely all round in my eyes. Given the impending roll-out of the “super fast” 5G networks around the world having their brand across the fastest F1 cars of all time (and probably for the foreseeable future) makes a lot of sense from a marketing perspective.
I agree with this, I actually was thinking of Deutsche Telekom, which includes the T-Mobile service
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Jackles-UK wrote:
11 Mar 2020, 12:47
NiyolHuayra wrote:
10 Mar 2020, 22:48
Since we are just around the corner form 1st GP of the season and Coca-Cola is not jet signed, what name (sponsor) would you guys love to see on that sidepod and the uniforms? For me it top picks are Microsoft, Boeing or Airbus, Under Armour, Amazon and Nike. Any one of them TBH (would love to buy some Under Armour gear with McLaren logo on it :) ).
Microsoft already have a deal with Renault and seeing that McLaren have existing deals with other tech companies (Dell, for instance) that’s not going to happen. Amazon also have a deal with the wider F1 sport with their AWS brand providing data so I’d imagine they’d stay away from individual teams sponsorship. I don’t see the what aerospace manufacturers would benefit from having F1 sponsorship, it’s not like your average F1 fan/spectator will be purchasing anything from them so don’t see that as a likelihood either.

Apparel manufacturers could be a possibility in the way that Puma do with Mercedes but given that the teams 2020 range of apparel has already been launched it would mean that they’d have to wait until 2021 now to have any meaningful involvement to promote their designs which, again, makes it an unattractive proposition this late in the day.

A mobile data/phone network (the likes of Vodafone, EE etc.) would be more beneficial and likely all round in my eyes. Given the impending roll-out of the “super fast” 5G networks around the world having their brand across the fastest F1 cars of all time (and probably for the foreseeable future) makes a lot of sense from a marketing perspective.
A strategic partnership with an aerospace company would surely benefit both as they can share technology on a much broader level (plus they have deep pockets). As of MSFT and AMZN yea I know they have deals in place.

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NiyolHuayra wrote:
11 Mar 2020, 13:17
Jackles-UK wrote:
11 Mar 2020, 12:47
NiyolHuayra wrote:
10 Mar 2020, 22:48
Since we are just around the corner form 1st GP of the season and Coca-Cola is not jet signed, what name (sponsor) would you guys love to see on that sidepod and the uniforms? For me it top picks are Microsoft, Boeing or Airbus, Under Armour, Amazon and Nike. Any one of them TBH (would love to buy some Under Armour gear with McLaren logo on it :) ).
Microsoft already have a deal with Renault and seeing that McLaren have existing deals with other tech companies (Dell, for instance) that’s not going to happen. Amazon also have a deal with the wider F1 sport with their AWS brand providing data so I’d imagine they’d stay away from individual teams sponsorship. I don’t see the what aerospace manufacturers would benefit from having F1 sponsorship, it’s not like your average F1 fan/spectator will be purchasing anything from them so don’t see that as a likelihood either.

Apparel manufacturers could be a possibility in the way that Puma do with Mercedes but given that the teams 2020 range of apparel has already been launched it would mean that they’d have to wait until 2021 now to have any meaningful involvement to promote their designs which, again, makes it an unattractive proposition this late in the day.

A mobile data/phone network (the likes of Vodafone, EE etc.) would be more beneficial and likely all round in my eyes. Given the impending roll-out of the “super fast” 5G networks around the world having their brand across the fastest F1 cars of all time (and probably for the foreseeable future) makes a lot of sense from a marketing perspective.
A strategic partnership with an aerospace company would surely benefit both as they can share technology on a much broader level (plus they have deep pockets). As of MSFT and AMZN yea I know they have deals in place.
As of apparel, don't they just buy unbranded shirts and stuff and print their logo on them and then charge big money? Getting a brand like UA/Nike/Addidas on board would allow them to expand that in a matter of weeks easily, but as I think about that we do not have drives that are well known like Lewis is and companies like that need a know face to reprent them.

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Puma do McLaren apparel already, albeit unbranded. Won't happen this season for sure.

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here you go, i called them ;-)
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ThePapayaJaguar wrote:
10 Mar 2020, 07:05
They should put a sponsor on the front wing endplates. Looks kinda unfinished without it.