Good choice.dren wrote:I have a feeling Kvyat will accidentally win this one.
flickerf1 wrote:I have a gut feeling that Jenson might possibly win this. 2006: 1st, 2011: 1st and 2016: ?? Every five years he's won. With there being a threat of rain, I could see a miracle happening.
Yeah, but I meant post 2006. I wasn't taking into account the years before.zeph wrote:flickerf1 wrote:I have a gut feeling that Jenson might possibly win this. 2006: 1st, 2011: 1st and 2016: ?? Every five years he's won. With there being a threat of rain, I could see a miracle happening.
Except in 2001 he spun off...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_Hu ... Grand_Prix
Are they worried that without sensors they might miss another Alonso Abu Dhabi incident ? It makes it automatic but doesn't change much, determining if someone was off wasn't a problem most of the time. How about crash sensors for those small crashes and penalties missed or even better head in the sand sensors?ChrisDanger wrote:Track limits will be enforced electronically this weekend, at least at turns 4 and 11. I hope their use will become more widespread in future. Maybe then we can focus on the racing instead of tedious arguments about the inconsistency and fairness of fallible human stewards.
In 2006, Shumi had the fastest car but the Samurai took the WDC.sosic2121 wrote:none of them would be equal to Schumacher in a same car. also, he won more than one championship with inferior car.Just_a_fan wrote:Benetton did have traction control. The entire paddock knew it. The FIA looked at the car and found traction control code which Benetton claimed was legacy code from testing but wasn't raced. FIA couldn't prove illegality so Benetton got away with it.sosic2121 wrote: He really was something special. You have to back to the beginning of his career to understand how good he was.
Senna believed Benetton was cheating/having traction control, since he couldn't understand how could he be so quick.
Schuie was bloody good, it must be said, but his results record needs to be seen in light of the politics of the day. Bespoke tyres, unlimited testing, Number 1 status etc. He still had to turn that in to results, of course, but the lack of a challenger on the other side of the garage made that a lot easier.
Would Schuie have done so well with Senna, Prost, Alonso, Vettel or Hamilton in the other car? Nope.
Ferrari was only faster(at least Schumi) during the last part of the championship. Renault was clearly the best car in the first half, then a more balanced competition and finally a stronger Ferrari(not with rain, where they s*cked).Pierce89 wrote: In 2006, Shumi had the fastest car but the Samurai took the WDC.
Michael had an engine failure in Japan and Fernando won. In Brazil, Michael had a puncture and finished fourth. It wasn't as clear as you're making it out to be.Pierce89 wrote:In 2006, Shumi had the fastest car but the Samurai took the WDC.sosic2121 wrote:none of them would be equal to Schumacher in a same car. also, he won more than one championship with inferior car.Just_a_fan wrote: Benetton did have traction control. The entire paddock knew it. The FIA looked at the car and found traction control code which Benetton claimed was legacy code from testing but wasn't raced. FIA couldn't prove illegality so Benetton got away with it.
Schuie was bloody good, it must be said, but his results record needs to be seen in light of the politics of the day. Bespoke tyres, unlimited testing, Number 1 status etc. He still had to turn that in to results, of course, but the lack of a challenger on the other side of the garage made that a lot easier.
Would Schuie have done so well with Senna, Prost, Alonso, Vettel or Hamilton in the other car? Nope.
Well, how much is "most of the time"? No human is going to be as infallible as an electronic sensor. A single human error would result in claims of inconsistencies and unfairness by the stewards. That was simply my point, and limited only to track limits.iotar__ wrote:Are they worried that without sensors they might miss another Alonso Abu Dhabi incident ? It makes it automatic but doesn't change much, determining if someone was off wasn't a problem most of the time. How about crash sensors for those small crashes and penalties missed or even better head in the sand sensors?ChrisDanger wrote:Track limits will be enforced electronically this weekend, at least at turns 4 and 11. I hope their use will become more widespread in future. Maybe then we can focus on the racing instead of tedious arguments about the inconsistency and fairness of fallible human stewards.
Plus, Renault started the season as the fastest car and they won 7 of 9 races and had 6 poles. By the time Ferrari got the advantage, the damage was already done, Alonso being 25 points in front of Schumi.flickerf1 wrote:Michael had an engine failure in Japan and Fernando won. In Brazil, Michael had a puncture and finished fourth. It wasn't as clear as you're making it out to be.Pierce89 wrote:In 2006, Shumi had the fastest car but the Samurai took the WDC.sosic2121 wrote: none of them would be equal to Schumacher in a same car. also, he won more than one championship with inferior car.