2022 Mexican Grand Prix - Autódromo Hermanos Rodríguez, Oct 28 - 30

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So going by the comments here FP1 And FP2 were unintriguing.
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Is there any oxygen in Mexico City with all the air pollution ?

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johnny comelately wrote:
29 Oct 2022, 00:42
Is there any oxygen in Mexico City with all the air pollution ?
Partial pressures are the same independent of other gases. Unless you want to go down detailed canyons.

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PlatinumZealot wrote:
29 Oct 2022, 00:39
So going by the comments here FP1 And FP2 were unintriguing.
The Pirelli guy gave a nice segment on how they are adapting to the tire blanket ban for 2024, with the reduction for 2023, but other than that, FP2 was too boring to stick around for.

FP1 wasn't bad but no one was really pushing with such low grip.

As a general theme, the tires are too hard this weekend.
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I wonder what damage there was to Charles car after he sent it into the barrier.

I have a feeling there is going to be more cars in the barrier or failing in track.

I still seriously don’t know why these FP2 time are wasted with a stupid read. Get the cars on a Thursday running session behind closed doors
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Plenty of bouncing here with AT, Merc, McL others??

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AR3-GP wrote:
29 Oct 2022, 01:18
PlatinumZealot wrote:
29 Oct 2022, 00:39
So going by the comments here FP1 And FP2 were unintriguing.
The Pirelli guy gave a nice segment on how they are adapting to the tire blanket ban for 2024, with the reduction for 2023, but other than that, FP2 was too boring to stick around for.

FP1 wasn't bad but no one was really pushing with such low grip.

As a general theme, the tires are too hard this weekend.
Isola gave the impression that in addition to reducing understeer thay want more race strategy options probably in the interest of artificial entertainment

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johnny comelately wrote:
29 Oct 2022, 02:59
AR3-GP wrote:
29 Oct 2022, 01:18
PlatinumZealot wrote:
29 Oct 2022, 00:39
So going by the comments here FP1 And FP2 were unintriguing.
The Pirelli guy gave a nice segment on how they are adapting to the tire blanket ban for 2024, with the reduction for 2023, but other than that, FP2 was too boring to stick around for.

FP1 wasn't bad but no one was really pushing with such low grip.

As a general theme, the tires are too hard this weekend.
Isola gave the impression that in addition to reducing understeer thay want more race strategy options probably in the interest of artificial entertainment
Having more performance gap between the compounds is the way it should be.

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I think it's more about consistent performance gaps between compounds. This year at most weekends there have been only 2 of the 3 compounds in the race that are good. Having a more consistent performance gap between compounds means that at a given weekend all 3 compounds could be viable in the race and open door to more interesting strategy battles, similar to what we saw at Zandvoort (where not coincidentally all 3 tyres worked well).

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organic wrote:
29 Oct 2022, 11:07
I think it's more about consistent performance gaps between compounds. This year at most weekends there have been only 2 of the 3 compounds in the race that are good. Having a more consistent performance gap between compounds means that at a given weekend all 3 compounds could be viable in the race and open door to strategies similar to Zandvoort (where all 3 tyres worked well).
Does viable mean race winning?

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johnny comelately wrote:
29 Oct 2022, 11:08
organic wrote:
29 Oct 2022, 11:07
I think it's more about consistent performance gaps between compounds. This year at most weekends there have been only 2 of the 3 compounds in the race that are good. Having a more consistent performance gap between compounds means that at a given weekend all 3 compounds could be viable in the race and open door to strategies similar to Zandvoort (where all 3 tyres worked well).
Does viable mean race winning?
Well think back to Zandvoort where RB tried 2-stop with softs and medium whereas Merc tried 1-stop medium hard and it seemed like Merc would've had at least a chance of the win

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tyre wise, everyone is in the same boat for today:

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For whatever reason teams need to return a previously unused set of mediums after FP2 on those tyre-test weekends, so that didn't really leave many other options.

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MadMax wrote:
29 Oct 2022, 01:14
johnny comelately wrote:
29 Oct 2022, 00:42
Is there any oxygen in Mexico City with all the air pollution ?
Partial pressures are the same independent of other gases. Unless you want to go down detailed canyons.
It was meant as an attempt at sarcastic humour about the degree of pollution in Mexico City being one of the most polluted cities in the world. It is ironic to be having a motor race there (another canyon)
Partial pressures will be similar (I retract this as an edit, it is not correct) but apart from the obvious atmo pressure drop the pollution does take up "room".
And the combustion is affected which brings up the mapping using MAF and oxygen sensors (along with the safeguard of cylinder pressures)
MAF sensors would be discounted and a correction factor different to the usual would be applied to the feedback of the oxygen sensors.
It would be interesting to know the difference in the products as opposed to say Spa.
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One would think prejudiced sjw vibes are so 3 years ago
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