2023 Saudi Arabian Grand Prix - Jeddah, March 17 - 19

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With Charles starting back, it will be great to see the battle between Carlos with a less draggy Ferrari, Fernando and Lance for third. We should also remember that the last two races here had 5-6 cars not finish. We could see an Alpine in the top 6 after Gasly’s blistering final stint pace on the C3s, which are now the medium tire and a Williams in the top 10 on a lower downforce track. Inshallah, Checo will keep it interesting with Max in the front!

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Alpine will be licking their lips with that prospect indeed. The circuit characteristics should suit them more if last year's car is anything to go by

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selvam_e2002 wrote:
15 Mar 2023, 17:35
Alonso has Podium in his sight
Indeed. Fred now knows he has a competitive car with assets like great mechanical grip and it’s gentle on the tires. The 05-06 Alonso has been awakened. :)
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Sofa King wrote:
15 Mar 2023, 19:07
With Charles starting back, it will be great to see the battle between Carlos with a less draggy Ferrari, Fernando and Lance for third. We should also remember that the last two races here had 5-6 cars not finish. We could see an Alpine in the top 6 after Gasly’s blistering final stint pace on the C3s, which are now the medium tire and a Williams in the top 10 on a lower downforce track. Inshallah, Checo will keep it interesting with Max in the front!
Alonso could be threat to Carlos. Luckily for Carlos there shouldn't be deg problem. Otherwise it could be easy for ALO

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AR3-GP wrote:
15 Mar 2023, 18:14
LM10 wrote:
15 Mar 2023, 18:08
SiLo wrote:
15 Mar 2023, 17:48
probably means another penalty later in the year as well right? Does he have both CEs gone from the pool already?
I think that the first one was changed as a precaution because it showed some anomaly and caused a discharge of the battery the night before the race. It then was sent to the factory for further checks. Might mean that it was/is salvageable and thus still in the pool.
Why wouldn't they use it here?
I guess they simply decided to already take the penalty in Jeddah because it’s a track with good overtaking opportunity.

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LM10 wrote:
15 Mar 2023, 20:52
AR3-GP wrote:
15 Mar 2023, 18:14
LM10 wrote:
15 Mar 2023, 18:08


I think that the first one was changed as a precaution because it showed some anomaly and caused a discharge of the battery the night before the race. It then was sent to the factory for further checks. Might mean that it was/is salvageable and thus still in the pool.
Why wouldn't they use it here?
I guess they simply decided to already take the penalty in Jeddah because it’s a track with good overtaking opportunity.
I think it's likely they aren't sure if the "recovered" one is actually good, and they don't want a second DNF in a row.
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It will be interesting to see lap time differences with the alterations to this circuit vs last year's edition. A summary of those here= https://f1i.com/news/468616-whitaker-f1 ... anges.html

Still expect a strong RedBull with Ferrari tailing. Difficult to assess Aston yet for this unique circuit. Less tire-wear issues potentially.

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Is Charles’ penalty the back of the grid? Or just a 10-place drop?

Big question this weekend is whether AM will bring a race to red bull.
Will Alonso have the package to race with verstappen? Will stroll have the package to race with Perez, sainz, Mercedes?
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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chrisc90 wrote:
15 Mar 2023, 23:30
Is Charles’ penalty the back of the grid? Or just a 10-place drop?

Big question this weekend is whether AM will bring a race to red bull.
Will Alonso have the package to race with verstappen? Will stroll have the package to race with Perez, sainz, Mercedes?
So far just ECU, but if they decide to take a new ES or another ECU before the start of the race it's back of the grid.

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organic wrote:
15 Mar 2023, 23:40
chrisc90 wrote:
15 Mar 2023, 23:30
Is Charles’ penalty the back of the grid? Or just a 10-place drop?

Big question this weekend is whether AM will bring a race to red bull.
Will Alonso have the package to race with verstappen? Will stroll have the package to race with Perez, sainz, Mercedes?
So far just ECU, but if they decide to take a new ES or another ECU before the start of the race it's back of the grid.

Is there anything they could gain by taking? Would they have anything they do not have a 'no cost' replacement for?
I can not think pf anything. (but then, I am not the sharpest tool either)
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Man I hope Ferrari can get on top of the reliability woes.

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zibby43 wrote:
16 Mar 2023, 02:44
Man I hope Ferrari can get on top of the reliability woes.
Maybe they misread the regulations as two control electronics per race instead of per season?

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Does this track have sprinklers?

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Verstappen was sick and will only arrive tomorrow:


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Skipping media day, very smart