Alonso - Ferrari - Renault...

[nuno]

Hamilton lost his first championship because he was stupid, won the second one by luck because I think that what happened in Brazil will never happen again in the history of F1. No doubt he is quick, but in 2007 please remember that McLaren had imo an illegal car developed using 700+ pages of aero/mech data from Ferrari (and please do not say that this affirmation is not true). In 2008 given that the rules were exactly the same I dont see how LH would have helped McLaren develop the car...I am pretty sure 95% was done already at Woking. In 2009...............he is quick, but I am not that impressed, I am sure he learned a lot from FA during winter testing and 2007 so......
FA - Ferrari is gonna be good, have a feeling it will be sort of like Schumish days. I think Ferrari know that KR is quicker than FM, and that is why I think they let KR go, given the past experience FA had in McLaren. I also think that KR is quicker that FM, but you need to give him a good car otherwise his motivation might go down. my 2 cents...

=D> for arguments - not emotions

[raceman]

With the arrival of Alonso, I will now move my sympaties from Renault to Ferrari. A born-again tifosi if you wish.

me on board with you on the ride

[Richard]

Hamilton lost his first championship because he was stupid, won the second one by luck because I think that what happened in Brazil will never happen again in the history of F1. No doubt he is quick, but in 2007 please remember that McLaren had imo an illegal car developed using 700+ pages of aero/mech data from Ferrari (and please do not say that this affirmation is not true). In 2008 given that the rules were exactly the same I dont see how LH would have helped McLaren develop the car...I am pretty sure 95% was done already at Woking. In 2009...............he is quick, but I am not that impressed, I am sure he learned a lot from FA during winter testing and 2007 so......

How is that of relevance to Alonso's Renault-Ferrari move?

[LotusF1]

Hamilton lost his first championship because he was stupid, won the second one by luck because I think that what happened in Brazil will never happen again in the history of F1. No doubt he is quick, but in 2007 please remember that McLaren had imo an illegal car developed using 700+ pages of aero/mech data from Ferrari (and please do not say that this affirmation is not true). In 2008 given that the rules were exactly the same I dont see how LH would have helped McLaren develop the car...I am pretty sure 95% was done already at Woking. In 2009...............he is quick, but I am not that impressed, I am sure he learned a lot from FA during winter testing and 2007 so......

How is that of relevance to Alonso's Renault-Ferrari move?

The whole topic went OT...debating on why Alonso was whining about Lewis in Mecca...I still think FA to Ferrari was an awesome move...just read KR is about to leave F1....?!?!!?!?!?

[Timomies]

With the arrival of Alonso, I will now move my sympaties from Renault to Ferrari. A born-again tifosi if you wish.

me on board with you on the ride

I'm with you guys. If 2006 someone would have said that I will cheer for Ferrari, I would lolled so hard

[lebesset]

lotus F1 , please explain to me what happened in brazil last year that hasn't happened before in the history of F1

[LotusF1]

lotus F1 , please explain to me what happened in brazil last year that hasn't happened before in the history of F1

Massa crossed the line as champ and lewis won 10 seconds later........erm........

[Sawtooth-spike]

lotus F1 , please explain to me what happened in brazil last year that hasn't happened before in the history of F1

Massa crossed the line as champ and lewis won 10 seconds later........erm........

No, Massa won the race and Lewis Overtook somebody who took a risk on stratagy in the last lap. There by winning the WDC.

Its not over till the fat lady sings!

[raceman]

lotus F1 , please explain to me what happened in brazil last year that hasn't happened before in the history of F1

Massa crossed the line as champ and lewis won 10 seconds later........erm........

No, Massa won the race and Lewis Overtook somebody who took a risk on stratagy in the last lap. There by winning the WDC.

Its not over till the fat lady sings!

uh-emm

lewis did not overtake anybody on that very final lap..... Timo spun with his TF108 on slick tyres on wet track at the final turn that "allowed" lewis to take the position and required darn points



correct me if wrong

[Sawtooth-spike]

He drove past him. Thats called overtaking.

[lebesset]

I am always amazed that this brazil race keeps coming up
I don't have a video of this race ...does anyone know what position glock was in when he decided NOT to change tyres , and what position hamilton was in when he DID decide to change?

in other words , did glock gain from his decision ? did hamilton gain ...or maybe he just took the safest line

[Richard]

He drove past him. That's called overtaking.

Interesting philosophical debate on the nature of "overtaking", but OT?

Why does Lewis seem to feature in every thread this last few days? I wouldn't be surprised if his name was mentioned in the Sauber thread ....

[Sawtooth-spike]

I know, I am sorry, i should not of rised to the bate.

I still dont think Alonso will get on with Massa.

[sdimm]

As someone before me said I´ve also been a Alonso/Renault fan when F1 got intresting again in 05 with someone else winning

So as for me I will now over the winter go through the process of becoming a Ferrari fan. Or screw it I´ve been a fan this whole season, Renault have forgotten how to make a brilliant rear end like 04-06

Go Ferrari and Go Alonso!

[siskue2005]

Massa crossed the line as champ and lewis won 10 seconds later........erm........

No, Massa won the race and Lewis Overtook somebody who took a risk on stratagy in the last lap. There by winning the WDC.

Its not over till the fat lady sings!

uh-emm

lewis did not overtake anybody on that very final lap..... Timo spun with his TF108 on slick tyres on wet track at the final turn that "allowed" lewis to take the position and required darn points



correct me if wrong

Timo was on slick tyres on wet track and was driving very slowly in the last lap
and Lewis and Kubica overtook him into the last corner
He didnot spin.