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WhiteBlue wrote:...So much for the people who think that Bernie's alternatives are so much worthier.
WB, not that I entirely approve of any underhanded machinations Bernie might be engineering behind the scenes, but as embarrassing as the tyre supply oversight might be, Stefan GP are still in waaaaayy better shape of being race-capable come Bahrain race weekend compared to USF1 (which is almost as good as dead) and Campos (which is still weeks away from putting together a race-worthy car, and may realistically be forced to miss a race or two in order to buy time).

Oh, and Joe Saward forgot something from his checklist: two pit crews.

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dumrick wrote:They should fuse with USf1 and create US&SerbiaF1.
=D>
Excellent!
Or, even better, they could persuade Obama to announce Serbia as the 51st State of USA!
(Sorry, I forgot, that would be the UK!)
:lol:
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sigh

I really feel sorry for StefanGP! They have everything it seems, but an entry in the Championship. I mean, what the hell FIA might be doing in delaying the decision to see 13 teams in the season-opener in Baharin? The late they decide, the bad it will be for StefanGP to contest without testing (due to tyre supplier contract) their car on track. C'mon, it's only 18 days to the race and still FIA is quiet on USF1 and Campos. I just don't understand the logic behind it.

It may take something to convene a meeting of the WMSC, but hey presto, you will have at least 12 good teams (considering USF1 gets entry denied on grounds of not enough preparation and Campos can't solve their situation in time) to race in Baharin and we fans will have everything we wanted, racing and only racing! Now, isn't it good to have 12 teams to form a full grid rather than 11?

Someone is ready to race provided the chance and the damn FIA is snail-walking to the route of decision. [-X

](*,)

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Anderson could indeed broker a deal with Stefanovic in my opinion,rent out the franchise if this is allowed to them until the are ready to bring their own car and
team.this would give stefanovic a quasi entry at least for four races and would borrow USF1 even more than 4 races to rise up .
Stefanovic could hope for them to fail,eventually taking over the franchise completely or ,in case the us boys make it prepare a new attempt for next year to come in.

we have seen stranger thing in F1....

as I said quite in the beginning with Stefan GP,one of the big issues will be a tyre supply ,as Bridgestone is bound with a contract to supply only registered F1 teams i`d guess .So you could test on something complete irrelevant (GP2 tyres )or try and start a development programme with the next F1 supplier ,unfortunatelly not yet decided.So this leaves them at the sidelines really.

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I don't think Bridgestone are allowed to supply F1 tyres outside of FIA/FOM nominated teams.

So I'm not wholly surprised at this issue. I'm surprised Joe is taking the stand he has.
- Axle

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axle wrote:I don't think Bridgestone are allowed to supply F1 tyres outside of FIA/FOM nominated teams.

So I'm not wholly surprised at this issue. I'm surprised Joe is taking the stand he has.
Since the Todt election Saward has been one of the more prominent supporters of the FiA. This is easily seen in his Briatore and Stefanovic comments.

It is obvious that Bernie has taken USF1 under fire as early as Dezember 2009 to help Stefanovic make the grid. The Stefan team embodies all the anti FiA politics. They kicked off an EU investigation against the FiA. They employ Mike Coughlan to show the finger, they announce testing all year long in case they are not accepted and make statements like an accepted race team.

It all creates the impression that Bernie is in charge of team admittance and not the FiA. Back at the place de la Concord in Paris this will be perceived as provocation and a challenge to the authority of the FiA. I can imagine who made a fone call to Hirohide Hamashima telling him that no tyre supply should be made available to the Serbian rogues.

The logical way for this to finish will be a stalemate. Bernie will succeed in destroying USF1 and the FiA may simply decide that 12 teams are enough for 2010. Perhaps USF1 will give back their license in a month or two and a proper above table selection process for a replacement can be started. This would be better than Bernie's manipulations under the table.
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isn´t it tragic USF1 will loose their franchise as they have no car ,no engine no money,and Mr.Stefanovic has cars,engines but no flight permission and no tyres as a result?..
Can a franchise be sold on ?
would the FIA accept a different engine ?
would they have to accept if the two operations could agree on a limited contract?

to me this seems to be the only option securing a full grid in 2010 .

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I keep hearing a lot about Stefan GP and all sorts of strange or shady things in the past of the team, or its management, but I have never been clear what that is.

not sure where to search, if anyone has a clear concise basic rundown of FACT about the hesitation surrounding them, other than country of origin and the scandals and war attributed to the country, what exactly is wrong in the eyes of the world with Stefan GP??
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BUMP anyone?
Before I do anything I ask myself “Would an idiot do that?” And if the answer is yes, I do not do that thing. - Dwight Schrute

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Nothing I can put my finger on, Gib...

It just seems they are trying their hardest to be outsiders, against the grain, path of most resistance. Whether it's lodging an EU complaint against FIA, their outlandish press releases...Hiring Coughlan...so on and so forth.

They just seem off to me.

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stefan GP issued a statement on their website ,burning the ground towards FIA
AND USF1 ....

http://www.stefangp.com/news008.html

My view is Stefanovic is not bothering to ignore all political correctness or
even has no idea how to strategically position himself in this.
i wonder how on earth his companys have dealt with Governments or in the industry...
I have never ever seen someone acting so shortsighted and ignorant,it beets USF1
by lengths because he has all in his hands and instead of playing the cards he turns around and knocks down all his achievements with his back .. :shock:

with actions like this all the hard labour is wasted and he will never see a stefan GP in F1 ..it is not the time for thumping it is the time for politely asking and being patient,Mr.Stefanovic .That is my honest opinion .

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Anyone wanna steal a crate with a F1 car inside ;)

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so thats why pete and ken are unavailable at this time they try to get hold of the cargo of stefan in bahrain...and as promised make the grid there...

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I wonder what kind of advise Bernie is giving to Stevanovic. Surely this is not helpful in a process where other teams will vote on their potential entry and they need the approval of the FiA. [-X #-o
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Sounds like they've realized they aren't going to get an entry, otherwise it doesn't make any sense sending a statement like that.