Abu Dhabi GP 2010 - Yas Marina Circuit

[kalinka]

At such a smooth circuit, I'm not sure that tyre wear would have such a great effect. Maybe graining would be more significant, but that's managable. With no consecutive high-speed corners, smoother drivers like Button and Massa would have a problem (especially in qaily ) to heat the tyres. For McLaren, if they do guess the needed downforce/speed level right ( like SPA ), then they would be in good position for the race. If Lewis can qualify good, then it would be not enough speed difference for other cars to overtake him. Especially RedBull would be in hard position if they must overteke here, because we saw how their car is behaving in slipstream. But that's just my opinion as always

[raymondu999]

Well FWIW the MP4-24 was a demon around here... even Heikki was fast. But we've seen this year that the 24's strengths seem to be the 25's weaknesses, and vice versa.

[djos]

Im hoping for either of the 3 scenarios to play out:

1/ Webber Wins outright, Vettel 2nd, Nando 3rd

2/ Webber Wins after Vettel Lets him past*, Vettel 2nd, Nando 3rd

3/ Vettel Wins, Webber 2nd, Nando DNF's

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*I think Vettel is smart enuf to put the team 1st and let Webber win the WDC

[raymondu999]

Sorry to burst your bubble a bit here djos... but Scenario 3 means Vettel wins the WDC. Judging by past experience I don't think that's what you'd like. lol.

[raymondu999]

Sorry to burst your bubble a bit here djos... but Scenario 3 means Vettel wins the WDC. Judging by past experience I don't think that's what you'd like. lol.

But in any case put me down for scenario 3

[djos]

Im aware of that, I'd prefer Webber to win the WDC but I'd pefer Vettel winning it than Nando.

[Mysticf1]

From the post Brazil interviews with Vettel i get the impression he will help Webber under the right circumstances to give the "team" its first WDC. Does anyone else suspect Webber has kind of shot himself in the foot with all his equal treatment talk?

Unlike Djos i think id prefer Nando to win if Webber cannot Like him or loath him he really is one of F1's top drivers, hes kinda slipped into the role Schu had before retirement, the super quick driver that polarizes opinion, the guy people love to hate.

Bring on Abu Dhabi, its going to be an epic end to an epic season...remember the anticipation of an great season before Bahrain, then the frantic panic that we might have a rather boring year...boy was that wrong.

[nipo]

Alonso deserves it this season. I hate the idea of him clinching the championship but he's really in a class of his own (or possibly together with Hamilton).

Emotionally I'd like to see Mark on pole and taking it from there, with Seb obediently keeping a 2nd. Reverse that grid order and I think Alonso would probably have bagged the WDC trophy even before the race starts...

I cannot wait to see qualifying!

[Crabbia]

How this for a hypothetical situation where team orders can get really sticky icky...

in the closing laps vettel leads webber second fred third.

in this situation fred will win, if vettel lets webber past webber will win.
vettel duely lets webber past, with 2 laps to go. on the last lap alonso's engine blows. So Webber wins the WDC when infact if vettel hadn't let him thru vettel would have won. now does webber concede his place again and let vettel win. or deos he keep it knowing vettel gave him the WDC?

i know this is a hypothetical situation but if last week is anything to go by it could play out like that... fred has a tired engine... i hope for the good of the sport something like this doesnt happen...

[Mysticf1]

I think the answer to your hypothetical is..not a chance in hell Webber would hand it back

[paipa]

How this for a hypothetical situation where team orders can get really sticky icky...

in the closing laps vettel leads webber second fred third.

in this situation fred will win, if vettel lets webber past webber will win.
vettel duely lets webber past, with 2 laps to go. on the last lap alonso's engine blows.

How about this one: A few laps to go, Vettel first, Webber second, Alonso third. Obviously Vettel wouldn't let Webber through until the very last moment, but now someone in the midfield has a major shunt and the Safety Car is deployed for the last few laps, just like this years Monaco GP or last years Australian GP.

Webber and Vettel aren't allowed to swap positions under yellow flag and Alonso wins the championship.

If it was for Flavio Briatore, he would make sure Massa crashes into the barriers on the tightest part of the track with 2 laps to go.

[djos]

How this for a hypothetical situation where team orders can get really sticky icky...

in the closing laps vettel leads webber second fred third.

in this situation fred will win, if vettel lets webber past webber will win.
vettel duely lets webber past, with 2 laps to go. on the last lap alonso's engine blows. So Webber wins the WDC when infact if vettel hadn't let him thru vettel would have won. now does webber concede his place again and let vettel win. or deos he keep it knowing vettel gave him the WDC?

i know this is a hypothetical situation but if last week is anything to go by it could play out like that... fred has a tired engine... i hope for the good of the sport something like this doesnt happen...

Im 100% certain Webber would develop radio problems if that happened!

[mariano.torre.gomez]

Possible strategies for Abu Dhabi

This season finale could be more thrilling than the one when LW was champion , and when Massa was champion for a few seconds

Red bull boss already announced no team orders
Red bull will gain in both cases, since their objective is RB’s Branding even if they are in second place RB will “win” as a respectfully brand/company
What to do??
If a where CH
I would prepare//map MW’s car slightly faster than SV’s in order to help him to take pole, and be at front during race, SV should drive between 2 sec margin, and both drivers would know that if Alonso drops they are free to race each other, but they are no allowed to crash/smash together their cars
Result if Alonso drops, maximum thrilling , red bull champion anyway.
Is Alonso remains in contention (3 rd or 4th)they have done their best. What to do?
If I were SD
I would prepare /map Felipe’s car to get in pole and to drive in race in first, even risking engine failure(eventually they could risk more if necessary with non confirming rules just to be at front)
Of course Alonso's car should be as fast as possible, with 2 RB’s risking also (3)on engine failure.
Which is no the case of Massa, who shall drive in front and hold the RB’s as much as possible and depending on Alonso position could eventually blow his engine trying to reach the objective.
Of course Alonso shall do his job to, trying to intercalate his car between both RBs
I don’t discard a ferrari's “poor FR/sat training” and a strong qualy
We will see their strategies soon

[JohnsonsEvilTwin]

Does anyone see Vettel moving over for Webber if it meant that Webber was to be champion?

[jakeconway]

Does anyone see Vettel moving over for Webber if it meant that Webber was to be champion?

The problem that Webber has is that...let's say that Vettel does move over for him halfway through the race...Webber leads Vettel ahead of Alonso. That is enough for Webber to win the WDC and Seb would not have won anyway as Fernando was in 3rd.
However...Alonso is pushing to beat Vettel so that he finishes second and wins the championship. Maybe he succeeds with this (how much of a fight will vettel put up)...or maybe his engine expires because FA is thrashing it so much. Then suddenly Vettel has to beat Webber to be WDC with Alonso out of the picture. Does Mark let Vettel back past to restore the situation? Unlikley.

Hope the "what if" makes sense. For me it certainly indicates that it is not so cut and dry that Vettel should let Mark pass...
For the record I want Fernando to win...failing that Mark...failing that Seb. Lewis can have it as a last resort