Malaysian GP 2011 - Sepang

[myurr]

Why would the EBD be a disadvantage in the wet? I can see the EBD having LESS of an advantage in the wet, but why would it be a disadvantage?

Can't get on the throttle when you want, don't get the downforce, upsets the balance of the car.

[kalinka]

I think McLaren has lost rain-performance since introducing EBD last year, but they were generally very good in rain these years, especially with Hamilton. I'm really courius where they stand with MP4-26 in rain. I like rain races but when it's Sepang, it's almost always too much of it...

[raymondu999]

Why would the EBD be a disadvantage in the wet? I can see the EBD having LESS of an advantage in the wet, but why would it be a disadvantage?

Can't get on the throttle when you want, don't get the downforce, upsets the balance of the car.

Can't get the throttle on would mean less downforce, yes, but it would still have more downforce than a non-EBD car

[nacho]

Valsecchi is driving in FP1 for Team Lotus. How much does a practise session like this cost for a driver? How much does it hamper the teams efforts to solve the tire warming problems, even if he doesn't bin it straight out of the pits like Chandok?

[myurr]

Why would the EBD be a disadvantage in the wet? I can see the EBD having LESS of an advantage in the wet, but why would it be a disadvantage?

Can't get on the throttle when you want, don't get the downforce, upsets the balance of the car.

Can't get the throttle on would mean less downforce, yes, but it would still have more downforce than a non-EBD car

But the car would not be balanced, with corner to corner lap to lap balance shifts due to varying use of the throttle, whereas the front wing is set in stone.

[raymondu999]

Of course not! It would flex less, so even with less EBD downforce, there would be less front wing downforce I jest, of course

[volarchico]

A wet race can definitely be exciting if it doesn't get rained out or red-flagged for too long. But unfortunately with a wet race, we'll have another week of bantering about if "McLaren is really off pace" and that this race is not a good indicator of W02's pace.

[raymondu999]

This may sound weird, but I actually am not looking for the overtaking (while that is an excellent add-on) but I love watching the spray coming out the back. Call me weird. Whatever. lol

[oranjemanzandvoort]

can anyone tell me whitch weatherradar images the teams use in malaysia ??

[raymondu999]

They all use Meteo France

[beelsebob]

can anyone tell me whitch weatherradar images the teams use in malaysia ??

I was under the impression that weather radars were *near* useless at Sepang because the track is right next to the source of the clouds... The result is that the clouds don't form until they're already dumping the water on the track.

[alelanza]

But the car would not be balanced, with corner to corner lap to lap balance shifts due to varying use of the throttle, whereas the front wing is set in stone.

Hmmm... initially i disagreed with you but i guess i understand, you're saying that in the rain with far more unpredictable grip drivers have to feel their way around more often, thus upsetting the aero more while doing that?
Then again i wonder how significant that effect is, and how many data points you're using to determine EBD equals poor perfomance in the rain.

[donskar]

This may sound weird, but I actually am not looking for the overtaking (while that is an excellent add-on) but I love watching the spray coming out the back. Call me weird. Whatever. lol

OK, you're weird.
Seriously, a wet race is good, IMHO. A rained-out/red flag race is bad. Given the state of RB's KERS, a heavy rain could help RB a lot (I'm assuming KERS would less useful on a very wet track?)

[CHT]

This may sound weird, but I actually am not looking for the overtaking (while that is an excellent add-on) but I love watching the spray coming out the back. Call me weird. Whatever. lol

OK, you're weird.
Seriously, a wet race is good, IMHO. A rained-out/red flag race is bad. Given the state of RB's KERS, a heavy rain could help RB a lot (I'm assuming KERS would less useful on a very wet track?)

Dont be fooled by what Horner say about RBR KERS. RB7 just quick that they can choose not to use it for Australia.

Will be watching the race from turn 6,7,8 and I am hoping it will be a dry race

[raymondu999]

Well that's the most reliable source right now, as he's the only person in any real position to know about the KERS. But I think, crucially, a wet start would greatly diminish the advantage of KERS. Newey might factor that in and think that no-KERS, for better airflow and packaging would be more beneficial in case of a wet start & race. We saw how the bazooka exhaust morphed into a small hole after they removed KERS