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No no no, every driver has 5 engines per season..From the 6th i think there will be the penalty (not so much a penalty nowadays)

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theformula wrote:Wait, so how many Km's has the Merc engine done since the FIRST Bahrain test? Also, isn't the engine supposed to last 5 races and therefore how many Km does the engine have to last for?
They have 5 engines so 1 engine for 4 races on average.

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diego.liv wrote:No no no, every driver has 5 engines per season..From the 6th i think there will be the penalty (not so much a penalty nowadays)
Yeah thanks just looked that up, I got mixed up between 5 engines per season and the engine has to last 5 races.
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theformula wrote:Wait, so how many Km's has the Merc engine done since the FIRST Bahrain test? Also, isn't the engine supposed to last 5 races and therefore how many Km does the engine have to last for?
They have done 4 race sims (and more) since the first Bahrain test. There are 19 races in a season, and 5 engines per car, hence they need to average 3.75 race distances.

I wonder slightly if this might be the reason for gearbox problems cropping up – perhaps they're testing the longevity of one box.

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BorisTheBlade wrote:Yes, in the testing topic I quoted AMuS in the morning. According to the team they changed it as a precautionary measure and its mileage was almost 3000km.
This is excellent news, If they average 750Km a race weekend, then they can get 4 races out of an engine.
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gingernibbler wrote:Have you heard the Merc engine firing order? It sounds a bit like a Ducati V twin. Is this to help rear traction/tyre wear by reducing power pulse regularity as per moto gp engines? Do you think They'll have the best rear traction at slow/street circuits?
Not heard anything about this. Interesting idea, would like to see more discussion on this.

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beelsebob wrote: I wonder slightly if this might be the reason for gearbox problems cropping up – perhaps they're testing the longevity of one box.
I could easily see this being the case, as it's the next most likely thing to break after the engine. I'm sure the substantially higher torque levels this year also works the gearbox a lot harder than in previous years.
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ACJJ619 wrote:
gingernibbler wrote:Have you heard the Merc engine firing order? It sounds a bit like a Ducati V twin. Is this to help rear traction/tyre wear by reducing power pulse regularity as per moto gp engines? Do you think They'll have the best rear traction at slow/street circuits?
Not heard anything about this. Interesting idea, would like to see more discussion on this.
Yeah just listen on the video's, sounds like a completely different firing order to ferrari and renault

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beelsebob wrote:
theformula wrote:Wait, so how many Km's has the Merc engine done since the FIRST Bahrain test? Also, isn't the engine supposed to last 5 races and therefore how many Km does the engine have to last for?
They have done 4 race sims (and more) since the first Bahrain test. There are 19 races in a season, and 5 engines per car, hence they need to average 3.75 race distances.

I wonder slightly if this might be the reason for gearbox problems cropping up – perhaps they're testing the longevity of one box.
I don't know if it applies to the gearbox but they did say earlier in the week that they were encountering problems because they were deliberately pushing the life of many of the components to find their breaking point.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqhaLqMtaEU

Merc engine certainly has a different sound, deeper like a V twin or big bang engine

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dans79 wrote:
BorisTheBlade wrote:Yes, in the testing topic I quoted AMuS in the morning. According to the team they changed it as a precautionary measure and its mileage was almost 3000km.
This is excellent news, If they average 750Km a race weekend, then they can get 4 races out of an engine.
actually I've done the proper calculation
since day 1 of the FIRST bahrain test until yesterday x by track length
meaning
a total of 582 laps (that's timed laps) x 5.412 (track length) = 3149.784KM

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I don't know enough about engine sounds to be able to differentiate firing orders. Can someone explain like I'm five?

The engine does sound different but I can't describe why. Maybe a bit of a higher pitch?

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Winter Testing 2014 - Session 3, Day 3 - Bahrain (01.03.2014)

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"...and there, very much in flames, is Jacques Laffite's Ligier. That's obviously a turbo blaze, and of course, Laffite will be able to see that conflagration in his mirrors... he is coolly parking the car somewhere safe." Murray Walker, San Marino 1985

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Look! There's a fiery glow coming from the back of the Mercedes! Ah, no. It's the rear safety light.

Sorry, I couldn't resist it! Anyway, a very good day for Nico. Tomorrow is the last day and then FP1!!! I want to see the new nose, I hope it won't be a disappointment.