2017 Azerbaijan Grand Prix - Hamilton vs Vettel incident

[Restomaniac]

It's only those who are either so blinded by hatred towards Hamilton or blind loyalty towards Vettel/Ferrari who can't see those same facts smacking them in the face.

Good that you are getting it. Do you understand that you are one of them?

I see you just happened to have missed my first line. I wonder why.

A classic case of using a deliberate misquote to try and make a point that isn't there. Truly pathetic.

[Andres125sx]

Hamilton did slow down a lot. That is a fact, 50kph is extremely slow for an F1 car.

Only in your mind, as telemetry did prove he kept almost constant speed througout the corner

50kmh is perfectly normal for a slow corner behind the SC

He also did it on a place, where you would normally accelerate. (also a fact).

Again, only in your mind. No one single F1 driver will accelerate at last slow corner before the straight, once the SC has switch off lights. They all, without exception, would slow down to build a gap with the SC so once he hit the throttle he can keep race pace until the finish line without overtaking the SC before the SC line.

That´s standard procedure at any category with SC

Can you please show the telemetry? Because FIA only stated that he did not brake.

Looking at the onboard you clearly see him slow down to almost a standstill.

I clearly see him NOT slowing down to almost a standstill...

Again, it is a place where people accelerate. It is out of a corner...

You can keep ignoring they were under SC with lights off if you want, but that will never change the facts

[Gothrek]

I clearly see him NOT slowing down to almost a standstill...

You can keep ignoring they were under SC with lights off if you want, but that will never change the facts

You do see the arrow with deceleration right? Him slowing down to 50kph. 50kph is almost a standstill for an F1 car.

Ok, apparently I am not making myself clear, it is a spot where you would normally accelerate out of in normal conditions (not SC). I fully understand they were under the SC at that moment. But still it is a place where normally acceleration is expected. That Vettel should follow the pace of Hamilton under SC, I don't argue. I am arguing that it is not intuitive to not accelerate there.

[Jester Maroc]

I clearly see him NOT slowing down to almost a standstill...

You can keep ignoring they were under SC with lights off if you want, but that will never change the facts

You do see the arrow with deceleration right? Him slowing down to 50kph. 50kph is almost a standstill for an F1 car.

Ok, apparently I am not making myself clear, it is a spot where you would normally accelerate out of in normal conditions (not SC). I fully understand they were under the SC at that moment. But still it is a place where normally acceleration is expected. That Vettel should follow the pace of Hamilton under SC, I don't argue. I am arguing that it is not intuitive to not accelerate there.

If Lewis did not slow down he would have been penalized. If he had accelerated out of T16 behind the SC he would have been stupid. He was bunching up the field and trying to build a gap behind the slow SC in order to control the race pace as was his responsibility.

Vettel was responsible to maintain a gap behind Lewis, Vettel was the one who made a mistake (I mean mistakes).

[GPR-A duplicate2]

I clearly see him NOT slowing down to almost a standstill...

You can keep ignoring they were under SC with lights off if you want, but that will never change the facts

You do see the arrow with deceleration right? Him slowing down to 50kph. 50kph is almost a standstill for an F1 car.

Ok, apparently I am not making myself clear, it is a spot where you would normally accelerate out of in normal conditions (not SC). I fully understand they were under the SC at that moment. But still it is a place where normally acceleration is expected. That Vettel should follow the pace of Hamilton under SC, I don't argue. I am arguing that it is not intuitive to not accelerate there.

By your logic, even Ocon should have accelerated and crashed behind Vettel! Correct? Guess what, may be the kid used his brain.

Ok, apparently I am not making myself clear

I am sure you are not clear with yourself. What else would explain your thought process even after seeing the telemetry you are vowing up your own arguments.

[santos]

I clearly see him NOT slowing down to almost a standstill...

You can keep ignoring they were under SC with lights off if you want, but that will never change the facts

You do see the arrow with deceleration right? Him slowing down to 50kph. 50kph is almost a standstill for an F1 car.

Ok, apparently I am not making myself clear, it is a spot where you would normally accelerate out of in normal conditions (not SC). I fully understand they were under the SC at that moment. But still it is a place where normally acceleration is expected. That Vettel should follow the pace of Hamilton under SC, I don't argue. I am arguing that it is not intuitive to not accelerate there.

By your logic, even Ocon should have accelerated and crashed behind Vettel! Correct? Guess what, may be the kid used his brain.

I think it was Perez... but the Force India had to brake to not crash into Vettel.

[Wass85]

The FIA's inability to bring the guilty to the rule book and let the serial offender escape, should spur the Mercedes to enhance their car performance in anger and dominate again. That would be the best answer to the stewards' inefficiency and of the FIA's, who are worried to punish Vettel, ONLY because it would affect the championship fight, in spite of full knowledge that it was a deliberate crime.

I would wish for the uni-dominance of Mercedes to be back as Vettel, doesn't deserve to fight for championship anymore.

Don't you think they're trying to do that already? I hope Hamilton wipes the floor with him and he will if he continues to be this strong in qualifying, the last race does show though that track position is key as Hamilton couldn't make the pass on Vettel.

[marmer]

Ham could have maintained speed with the sc instead of dropping to 50kph which is only just over 30mph let's remember. Vet shouldn't have been that near but the rules allow it.

Just on the rules does anyone know of an instance were a car has passed the sc before it should have and what the punishment was.
Or if a car was along side another but just behind as to not have gone past what would happen if the lead car slammed on so that the 2nd car would overtake illegally.

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[iotar__]

I love how manipulative media (guess who ) put headlines like "F1 reacts to Vettel's let-off" as if he escaped a penalty when in reality he got a proper one during the race. Lowest common denominator.

[Steven]

Right, we're done here.