Mercedes GP - Inauguration and 1st season

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So we are being judged on our humour now too? :o

Anyway it's worth noting that despite some predicting Mercedes WILL be beaten into fourth place by Renault, that La regie are pretty much waving the white flag.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/87528
More could have been done.
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We should all direct our greatfulness to this great forum and its dear moderators for their kindness to re-open this thread.

Let the tri-star bashing re-start! If MGP can reach their ambitious goal of beating the French one-car squad,
they should be most satisfied, considering their predecessor's modest results from last year I guess?
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:lol:
If la regie can't be asked to pay a second driver, thats their business.
I mean its the same for every team, pay driver or no. Petrov was also quite highly rated before he blew it this year.
Fact remains, 4th for them now looks a pipe dream!
More could have been done.
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I feel Mercedes GP has now found an island of peace for the rest of the season, as they accept that thing is not a winner and they concentrate on just maximise what they have at their disposal.
Interestingly the car and team seems to improve now that they don´t try to develop it..so
maybe they were just tripping over their own feet instead of beeing confident to be able to max the package available...

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Marcush,

I was watching a programme based on the properties of custard. Bear with me now :)
Apparently the when force is applied to the "liquid", it becomes a solid.
but if you apply force slowly the custard remains in liquid state.

Now I'm not suggesting the W01 is custard!
But when they pushed hard at development, these guys hit a wall. Now that they have focused on next year's charger it appears the car is better.
Maybe they are just maximising all the variables they can, like tyre pressures wing angle etc and the W01 is responding.
It could also be a total fluke.....but note that the gap with Red Bull hasnt changed that much.
More could have been done.
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Pretty much my thoughts as well. Instead of trying new components on the car all the time and evaluating them, they're spending their time finding setup data and fine tuning the car for what it is.

It does indeed appear that they were tripping over themselves to catch up or whatever instead of going back to the basics. Not saying one shouldn't develop the car and test new components, but this should be done once you know the car first. This appears to be the problem they had.

Touch wood.
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http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/87548

Guess Ross had forgot about the hundred megaquid he and small-Fry had stashed away in the bank then?
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Darn cost reductions will no doubt create new costs putting the low costs back up making the cost reductions pointless. :wink:

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Surprise surprise.

Gilgen and Segedunum continue their tirade on the Mercedes GP thread. Mods will you intervene, or shall I?
More could have been done.
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Oh yes I am willing to intervene JET ;)

We've been so kind in reopening this thread a few times after it got closed, but apparently that didn't help much. Just like with a few other notorious bashing threads which got closed last week, this is the very last post in this thread.

Feel free to discuss anything GP related in the appropriate GP threads, or start a new topic, hopefully it is possible there to remain on-topic and not start a war on who is the biggest fan and who is the greatest German.

Feel free to pass your thoughts on this to steven@f1technical.net .

Thank you

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All change at Mercedes....No names being mentioned just yet.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/87601
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James Allen was hinting at Jock Clear's movement within the team. Maybe to head mechanic or something? Nico's old engineer from Williams may be coming over. At least they are keeping everyone.
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dren wrote:James Allen was hinting at Jock Clear's movement within the team. Maybe to head mechanic or something? Nico's old engineer from Williams may be coming over. At least they are keeping everyone.
All reports I have read thus far is that Brawn is looking at procedures.
Who does what, where it goes wrong, why it goes wrong and where to "fix" it.
Brawns strength basically.
They were hamstrung last year, when departments within the team were halved and tasks were delegated to the remaining staff.
Its the reason they went "conservative" for this year. Less to go wrong with an understaffed factory.

From what I gather, Brawn is headhunting for staff where there are shortfalls in performance and targets(bar drivers). And the Rosberg interview indicates that some hirings have already been made.
More could have been done.
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