Ferrari F14T

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Calm down guys. The DRS isn't stuck. They are experimenting with the gap in this particular design. That configuration can create a bit more downforce. In this way, they virtually increase the surface of rear wing. The air goes faster (easier) through that gap and flows not backwards (opposite of car motion) but upwards, so that flow of the air, as I said, extends the actual surface of the rear wing.
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shelly wrote:
FrukostScones wrote: ...image of crashed f14...
One interesting detail in this picture is tha different angle of attack of the inner and outer part of the winglet above the leading edge of the sidepod. There is an abrupt change in angle, as if the local flow was very different between the two sections.

This is the typical twist theat we see on front suspension arms or in the low louvers of rwep: since there is a vortex passing across the element, the twist of the arifoil compensates for the local velocity direction difference induced by the vortex.

Is this the case on top of the sidepod also? Maybe the local difference in aoa is caused by the sidepod itself underneat, with the flow running along the rounded lateral surface of the sidepod leading edge
I don't think that's the reason at all. Think of how different the demands are on flow regimes over the top, versus around the side of the sidepod. It looks to me like they are attempting to maximize airspeed over the top, and conversely condition a larger chunk of air flow around the side.
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somewhere in this forum someone posted top speed data and ferrari appeared to be the fastest one , i have questions to all experts(my knowledge is pretty basic compared to others). top speed is determined by engine power + how less draggy car is.
1) is is safe to assume that ferrari engine is as powerful as mercedes one, considering drag is equal to wht mercedes is experiencing ( i think since sidepods in f14t are smaller and coke bottle area is much more compact , there is fair possibility that f14t is less draggy in compare to merc and ferrair engine is producing bit less compare to merc's engine) ?
2) if ferrari engine is as powerful as mercedes then ferrari just needs to find bit of downforce to excel corners and match merc in terms of lap times.
i am bit confused because after two rounds of testing i do not understand where ferrari stands and everyone is only talking about merc's excellence or redbull's woes

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max_speed wrote: i am bit confused because after two rounds of testing i do not understand where ferrari stands and everyone is only talking about merc's excellence or redbull's woes
I think you're not alone here. I don't think anybody (incl.teams) have a clear understanding of the ranks ATM. We have just wait and see.

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I saw the top speed story too. It was 6km/hr faster. Now that is substantial at a speed of over 330km/hr but.... There are again too many variables (DRS, slipstreaming, sacrificing turn in for corner exit) to draw any conclusions in so far as ranking. It is even possible that they set the car up for top speed and went all out to test the stability at top speed and under breaking from top speed, with a setup that would not be optimal for good lap times. The only conclusion you can safely come to with that information is that the ferrari does not have an issue with top speed and power. Which leads you again to the simple conclusions that everyone has made about the F14T up to this point. It's not lighting the world on fire but it doesn't have any huge issues and looks to be a in good shape.

It is notable that the sauber was not in the top 3 rankings so maybe we can draw from that information that the ferrari has less drag than the sauber but not much else. Had the sauber been in the top three we could have made the argument that the ferrari PU is a weapon. If the ferrari, the sauber and the marussia had rounded out the top three we could safely call the first battle in the PU arms race for the ferrari, but that is not the case.

But for now all we know for certain is that it is performing adequately and around about on par in so far as power is concerned with the merc PU.
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Can forum experts put down areas where they are expecting f14T to bring updates in next test ?. for ex new fw. i think ferrari is mainly focusing on reliability at the moment with 28th feb deadline set for engine homogenization , i think first 2 days of next test their focus will still remain on engine and other PU parts. so is there a possibility tht they will not get significant aero updates fr next test.
i think ferrari has extra bits to do with their first batch of aero components coming from upgraded tunnel , they have many things to test before laying down development plan , with Allison at helm of affairs at ferrari , i certainly hope this year their aero bits work.

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The Brake cylinder bottle looks way far from the monocoque and inside the front wing.. however it could have dislodged from the monocoque with the impact. correct me if i am wrong.

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outsid3r wrote:Anyone noticed the loud 'pop' here? Is this the misfiring some have been talking about?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZgMf_lQ ... be&t=3m59s
i cant watch the vid, youtube says video is private.

If it is the raikkonen crash, then what you are hearing is front and rear rim being buckled and the tires popping off.

if it isn't the crash please amend the link because i'd be interested to hear it.
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I think it just looks that way because a) crash and b) it fits within the actual structure whereas your eyes are 'seeing' the vanity panel too as one whole structure and comparing this to the higher setup last year - I think the VP is what has cracked off to the right of the '7'?
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Crabbia wrote:
outsid3r wrote:Anyone noticed the loud 'pop' here? Is this the misfiring some have been talking about?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZgMf_lQ ... be&t=3m59s
i cant watch the vid, youtube says video is private.

If it is the raikkonen crash, then what you are hearing is front and rear rim being buckled and the tires popping off.

if it isn't the crash please amend the link because i'd be interested to hear it.
No it was a video of Kimi doing a practice start on leaving the pitline, while some girl journalist was giving a report on day 3 if I'm not mistaking. I'll try to look for the same video elsewhere...

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if this video is the one with jennie grow, here is the bbc link

only works in the uk

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/26303657

raikkonens practice start is near the end
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Alonso Fan wrote:if this video is the one with jennie grow, here is the bbc link

only works in the uk

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/26303657

raikkonens practice start is near the end
Yes thats the one, and the link I posted seems to be working again :) the 'pop' is just before the 4 minute mark

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZgMf_lQ ... be&t=3m59s

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From Pius Gasso' twitter:

Floor / rear diffuser:

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Temperature sensor and some form of electronic measuring device?

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Pius has also found a higher res photo of Kimi and the larger "ray mouth"

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There is no way that's shading, that has to be an inlet. But the question is whether its for cooling or internal aero work?
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Temp sensitive decal and I'd guess a tyre pressure sensor.
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