Scuderia Ferrari 2012

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Banerjee wrote:@f1.ru...thats all fine and good...but for how much longer can we expect our chief rivals to mess up..Ham nd his unit made a mistake by not electing to go for button's rear wing. Next time around,he just might and we will have a whole raft of cars between HAM and ALO. And i simply cannot understand why McLaren's work-rate is so much better than Ferrari's. We are leading a world championship...so why cant Fry nd co. just act like one?? I am very much disappointed at this...we cant expect lady luck to shine upon ALO all the time. And Maldonado starts alongside him tomorrow,lets just hope he takes out HAM and not ALO.... :twisted:
Do you work at Ferrari? or why are you using "we"?

Maybe the Ferrari has had enough difficulties to make their car drivable in the first place. So by now they have a car that works but in pure development they are still some weeks, maybe months, behind the other front-runners. They always tell the press that they are not the fastest and that they wish they would be, but it's not easy, and it is no question of "wanting to develop faster".

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F1.Ru
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Banerjee wrote:@f1.ru...thats all fine and good...but for how much longer can we expect our chief rivals to mess up..Ham nd his unit made a mistake by not electing to go for button's rear wing. Next time around,he just might and we will have a whole raft of cars between HAM and ALO. And i simply cannot understand why McLaren's work-rate is so much better than Ferrari's. We are leading a world championship...so why cant Fry nd co. just act like one?? I am very much disappointed at this...we cant expect lady luck to shine upon ALO all the time. And Maldonado starts alongside him tomorrow,lets just hope he takes out HAM and not ALO.... :twisted:
Again i am saying that Fry nd Co. are doing what do best, trying to improved their car. They have to gone through scraping some major updates due to their correlation issues recently. They now acting with much like trial & error method. So in this consequences they brought a completely new rear wing (which work), some revision to their mirror mounting, more revision to their exhaust, seems they also clear their cock bottle zone further.... so thats not bad. In comparison with RB8 which is already a very updated car but they failed to perform here completely at least in qualifying. Without grid penalty webber is their best in 7th place. So that seems they are also struggling for pace. even lotus of kimi and roman is not hugely quick. Ferrari is planning to bring their major updates package in Singapore Gp, so what they are doing now is to flow with the tide and hoping to do better in the future races.

F2012 is disastrously slow in the opening races, then most of the people in F1 said that Ferrari should moved their focus on 2013. But Fry nd co. responses so quickly and firmly that F2012 win 3 times and Alonso finishes in point every races of this year which itself is a statements for their reliability and strategy. So lets no wand off your hopes and wish for goood ...
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Banerjee
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superdread wrote:
Banerjee wrote:@f1.ru...thats all fine and good...but for how much longer can we expect our chief rivals to mess up..Ham nd his unit made a mistake by not electing to go for button's rear wing. Next time around,he just might and we will have a whole raft of cars between HAM and ALO. And i simply cannot understand why McLaren's work-rate is so much better than Ferrari's. We are leading a world championship...so why cant Fry nd co. just act like one?? I am very much disappointed at this...we cant expect lady luck to shine upon ALO all the time. And Maldonado starts alongside him tomorrow,lets just hope he takes out HAM and not ALO.... :twisted:
Do you work at Ferrari? or why are you using "we"?

Maybe the Ferrari has had enough difficulties to make their car drivable in the first place. So by now they have a car that works but in pure development they are still some weeks, maybe months, behind the other front-runners. They always tell the press that they are not the fastest and that they wish they would be, but it's not easy, and it is no question of "wanting to develop faster".
So you have a problem with my choice of words,but not with Fry and co.'s efforts,great....
Look,i know they did a great job in effecting a turnaround post-Bahrain. But the question is,why a team with so much funding made such a hash of their winter in the first place.

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amouzouris
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Banerjee wrote:
superdread wrote:
Banerjee wrote:@f1.ru...thats all fine and good...but for how much longer can we expect our chief rivals to mess up..Ham nd his unit made a mistake by not electing to go for button's rear wing. Next time around,he just might and we will have a whole raft of cars between HAM and ALO. And i simply cannot understand why McLaren's work-rate is so much better than Ferrari's. We are leading a world championship...so why cant Fry nd co. just act like one?? I am very much disappointed at this...we cant expect lady luck to shine upon ALO all the time. And Maldonado starts alongside him tomorrow,lets just hope he takes out HAM and not ALO.... :twisted:
Do you work at Ferrari? or why are you using "we"?

Maybe the Ferrari has had enough difficulties to make their car drivable in the first place. So by now they have a car that works but in pure development they are still some weeks, maybe months, behind the other front-runners. They always tell the press that they are not the fastest and that they wish they would be, but it's not easy, and it is no question of "wanting to develop faster".
So you have a problem with my choice of words,but not with Fry and co.'s efforts,great....
Look,i know they did a great job in effecting a turnaround post-Bahrain. But the question is,why a team with so much funding made such a hash of their winter in the first place.
well...how do you know what their efforts are? the team is very motivated...alonso is leading the wdc...they are much more clever than you think...they wouldn't sit back and enjoy, not even for a moment... there were some glitches with the wind tunnel that they said they fixed...so we can expect upgrades that work in the next couple of races....

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Hail22
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I'm very happy in the Direction Ferrari is going, they rectified their main issue with regards the FWEP basically starting with a new/fresh platform for the large development package expected/due for the Singtel Singapore GP.

What that package will contain remains an ever more time consuming fact finding mission.....
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Jordi Gené said on Spanish TV that the best settings for race and quali were very different on this track due mainly to the high percentage of non straight full throttle. In quali you can use DRS freely, but in the race you can't so needed settings are different.
It seems that McLaren has found somethig, though. Button should have an easy win in front of him today and he is not the kind of driver that makes silly mistakes...

superdread
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Banerjee wrote: So you have a problem with my choice of words,but not with Fry and co.'s efforts,great....
Look,i know they did a great job in effecting a turnaround post-Bahrain. But the question is,why a team with so much funding made such a hash of their winter in the first place.
I, and I dare say you as well, lack the information necessary to judge their efforts.
Every bit of data they have during pre-season development is extrapolated from previous cars, or a .6 wind tunnel (that uses lower speeds as well). Correlation issues are always present and sometimes they are big enough to ruin the development.

In the end what counts is how competitive the car is and Ferrari has deficits in that area. It's a problem and they are sure to try to resolve it, but saying that they are lazy or whatever, is a bit unfair.
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amouzouris
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superdead my reply wasn't directed to you! :D

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Not a bad drive today from Massa. Granted, his race was flattered by attrition. But, hey, he's looked a gift horse in the mouth before.

alogoc
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do you think Alonso's engine and gearbox need replacement?

and any one has a info what engine of the season that was for him?
THE F2012!
THE CAR THAN WON 2012 WORLD F1 CHAMPIONSHIP WHIT A TILTED ENGINE!

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alogoc wrote:do you think Alonso's engine and gearbox need replacement?
You mean was it damaged in the crash at La Source?

I wouldn't know about that - but now, he can get a free gearbox change at Monza if he wants to - if you have a DNF you're allowed to change your gearbox for free next race.
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raymondu999 wrote:
I wouldn't know about that - but now, he can get a free gearbox change at Monza if he wants to - if you have a DNF you're allowed to change your gearbox for free next race.
Yes, and this will help a tiny bit. Always nice to have new gearbox.

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clipsy1H
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i'm the only one who thinks that Alonso was today a few inches of death?.... thx GOD he's alright.

alogoc
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raymondu999 wrote:
alogoc wrote:do you think Alonso's engine and gearbox need replacement?
You mean was it damaged in the crash at La Source?

I wouldn't know about that - but now, he can get a free gearbox change at Monza if he wants to - if you have a DNF you're allowed to change your gearbox for free next race.

yes but Ferrari was leading in engine game so far i heard they had a plan to use new engines in last few races to have a bit of Quali advantage!
i think today was new engine hope it's not ruined now!
THE F2012!
THE CAR THAN WON 2012 WORLD F1 CHAMPIONSHIP WHIT A TILTED ENGINE!

bhall
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It definitely could have been a whole lot worse.

Alonso's view of Grosjean (roughly):
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