2023 - McLaren Formula 1 Team

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Tomsky wrote:
21 Oct 2023, 12:31
Ferrari just seems to be a little faster everywhere apart from T19 where Lando gained it all back, hopefully that points towards better race pace on Sunday

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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features ... on-invests

More great news for the team! Well done Zak

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Marc.W wrote:
21 Oct 2023, 14:48
Tomsky wrote:
21 Oct 2023, 12:31
Ferrari just seems to be a little faster everywhere apart from T19 where Lando gained it all back, hopefully that points towards better race pace on Sunday
The Ferrari's ability to put the power down out of corners is insane! McL needs more mechanical grip next year

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Macklaren wrote:
21 Oct 2023, 15:24
The Ferrari's ability to put the power down out of corners is insane! McL needs more mechanical grip next year
Solve that and we have a solid chance of the win every weekend in 2024 surely lol

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It seems like too much of 1 thing usually makes the car worse in some other aspect. I suspect Ferrari's traction is why they have issues with the car in other areas.
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Macklaren wrote:
21 Oct 2023, 15:24
Marc.W wrote:
21 Oct 2023, 14:48
Tomsky wrote:
21 Oct 2023, 12:31
Ferrari just seems to be a little faster everywhere apart from T19 where Lando gained it all back, hopefully that points towards better race pace on Sunday
The Ferrari's ability to put the power down out of corners is insane! McL needs more mechanical grip next year
Lando looked good in 12 and 20 braking zones. I thought the McLaren had a long standing issue in high energy braking zones. Or was that just different driving style. Leclerc driving to the strengths of the car.

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Ferrari's problem hasn't been their qualifying pace, but their race pace. If there is one area we have improved on recently is the race day pace. Mercedes is a bigger threat. With Hamilton 3rd, I am nervous about a classic Hamilton dive bomb. I expect Piastri to learn the track better during the shootout/Sprint and give a strong showing in the race.
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AR3-GP wrote:
21 Oct 2023, 15:39
It seems like too much of 1 thing usually makes the car worse in some other aspect. I suspect Ferrari's traction is why they have issues with the car in other areas.
How do you think the traction is causing issues elsewhere?
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Macklaren wrote:
21 Oct 2023, 15:21
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features ... on-invests

More great news for the team! Well done Zak
can you sum up please, because you have to be registered on the page..-

Thanks

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mwillems wrote:
21 Oct 2023, 18:28
AR3-GP wrote:
21 Oct 2023, 15:39
It seems like too much of 1 thing usually makes the car worse in some other aspect. I suspect Ferrari's traction is why they have issues with the car in other areas.
How do you think the traction is causing issues elsewhere?
I think they are not as stiffly sprung as some other teams because they don't have as much downforce to worry about. Softer suspension usually provides better traction.
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AR3-GP wrote:
mwillems wrote:
21 Oct 2023, 18:28
AR3-GP wrote:
21 Oct 2023, 15:39
It seems like too much of 1 thing usually makes the car worse in some other aspect. I suspect Ferrari's traction is why they have issues with the car in other areas.
How do you think the traction is causing issues elsewhere?
I think they are not as stiffly sprung as some other teams because they don't have as much downforce to worry about. Softer suspension usually provides better traction.
Judging by how the car jumps around that’s not really what is happening, especially compared to red bull in my opinion. F1TV kept replaying Ferrari on the bumps to show the track was bumpy.

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dialtone wrote:
21 Oct 2023, 19:04
AR3-GP wrote:
mwillems wrote:
21 Oct 2023, 18:28


How do you think the traction is causing issues elsewhere?
I think they are not as stiffly sprung as some other teams because they don't have as much downforce to worry about. Softer suspension usually provides better traction.
Judging by how the car jumps around that’s not really what is happening, especially compared to red bull in my opinion. F1TV kept replaying Ferrari on the bumps to show the track was bumpy.
But curiously Leclerc said after the session that their package made him feel confident over the bumps especially in the high speed. :wtf:

That does correlate to the suspension/tire setup being particularly supple compared to others.

In theory the "jounciness" the car can also be related to underdamping of a soft suspension and when I say "soft" it's still bone chattering stiff in absolute terms, but I mean relative to the other cars.
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AR3-GP wrote:
21 Oct 2023, 18:59
mwillems wrote:
21 Oct 2023, 18:28
AR3-GP wrote:
21 Oct 2023, 15:39
It seems like too much of 1 thing usually makes the car worse in some other aspect. I suspect Ferrari's traction is why they have issues with the car in other areas.
How do you think the traction is causing issues elsewhere?
I think they are not as stiffly sprung as some other teams because they don't have as much downforce to worry about. Softer suspension usually provides better traction.
Interesting, they did well at Singapore which requires downforce, how do you square that with the idea they have less downforce, or have I totally misunderstood? If you mean setup wise I can understand, because they aren't running a big wing. If you mean in that sense, then yes, I understand.
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I thoroughly enjoy this track, watching the drivers struggle so much to put a lap together because of a difficult track makes it so exciting.
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What's going on? Pace doesn't look great...