2024 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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I believe that Brazil won't be a good race for us. São Paulo is cold and there is a significant risk of rain on Sunday. If it rains, I don't trust either Leclerc or Sainz to have a good race in wet conditions but I hope it won't be a repeat of the Canada race disaster.

I believe Red Bull and McLaren will have strong cars for São Paulo. Perhaps we can compete with Red Bull, but McLaren should dominate there in my opinion.

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edu2703 wrote:
28 Oct 2024, 00:37
I believe that Brazil won't be a good race for us. São Paulo is cold and there is a significant risk of rain on Sunday. If it rains, I don't trust either Leclerc or Sainz to have a good race in wet conditions but I hope it won't be a repeat of the Canada race disaster.

I believe Red Bull and McLaren will have strong cars for São Paulo. Perhaps we can compete with Red Bull, but McLaren should dominate there in my opinion.
Brazil is bumpy and has high tire deg. Ferrari will be absolutely fine. Red Bull stronger? There's downplaying chances and then there's just lying :lol:
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wowgr8 wrote:
27 Oct 2024, 21:34
Fakepivot wrote:
27 Oct 2024, 17:48
bit of tech question, how comes other team running less cooling outlets compared to Ferrari.
From what I read more cooling outlets = more drag, but Ferrari still ended up with a pole. are other team running less power ?
Ferrari engine is less efficient and has always needed more cooling compared to Merc and Honda, this was very noticeable pre 2022 when it was all about shrinkwrapped sidepods. Merc and RB could have teeny tiny sidepods and outlets, the Ferrari ones were bigger
True, but the flip side of that is that the Ferrari engine is absolutely tiny and can be positioned much lower in the chassis.

Also don't forget that Ferrari-engined teams are the only teams to run a triangle centerline intake with little to no cooling, meaning that their sidepods end up larger as a consequence. So while their engine might have slightly worse cooling performance, a large part of the larger sidepods is just a consequence of their choice of air intake, and the resulting packaging compromises.

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Norris was doing LiCo as well, it's the thin air.

He had to even lift into turns on warmup lap. Thin air means it is hard to cool the brakes and engine.

I bet Max and Leclerc did it for the same reason.

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edu2703 wrote:
28 Oct 2024, 00:37
I believe that Brazil won't be a good race for us. São Paulo is cold and there is a significant risk of rain on Sunday. If it rains, I don't trust either Leclerc or Sainz to have a good race in wet conditions but I hope it won't be a repeat of the Canada race disaster.

I believe Red Bull and McLaren will have strong cars for São Paulo. Perhaps we can compete with Red Bull, but McLaren should dominate there in my opinion.
Agreed.

I was very bullish on both Mexico and COTA, but Brazil feels like it shouldn't really be great. Ferrari has surprised me before though. The one major weakness of the Ferrari (and frankly their drivers as well) seems to be wet races. Should Brazil end up wet, they will probably struggle. I don't think Red Bull will be better than Ferrari though, but McLaren should be better on paper there.

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Vanja #66 wrote:
28 Oct 2024, 00:36
Wasn't this close even though Leclerc was cruising and Norris had a very important tyre life and pace offset
Well I'm judging Carlos today and Austin, Charles was clearly not at his optimum settings, he might have cruised the same way today. We'll see of course, maybe the cold weather is still affecting, but I think at least not as much as in the previous specs.
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edu2703 wrote:
28 Oct 2024, 00:02
Autobahn303 wrote:
27 Oct 2024, 23:39
edu2703 wrote:
27 Oct 2024, 23:36
Average Leclerc bottlejob...
Jesus, where do all these people come from?
Leclerc has an unhealthy amount of situations where he has made silly mistakes when under pressure from a driver behind. This is not normal.

It's one thing to be overtaken by a legitimately faster driver. That's ok. It's another to simply give up a position because of a silly mistake. This is embarrasing and even more embarassing for Leclerc to continue doing this after years in F1. A driver who cannot hold his own on the track against other drivers will never be champion.
quite the reach

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Shrieker wrote:
28 Oct 2024, 00:18
How are Ferrari fastest with a good margin suddenly, with no updates :lol:

I'm sick and tired of the way the 'authorities' making back room deals with exposed cheaters, and shafting them down a notch in the pecking order. They did this with Ferrari in 2020 and 21 when they got caught in '19. Now, with the other team(s). Just exclude them from the championship like they deserve, as they did with McLaren back in 2007.
Authoritarian nonsense; all teams push the limits. In this formula, there's no double diffuser, f-duct, mass damper, et al. to monkey with. So, extra-bendy parts are the new meta.

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Guys... Leclerc is getting community service :lol: :lol:


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Vanja #66 wrote:
28 Oct 2024, 00:00
JPower wrote:
27 Oct 2024, 23:55
Ferrari is on a roll. Why not Sao Paulo too?
Because it's gonna be cold and wet (forecast at the moment). Anything better than P3-P4 is gonna be great, luckily Mercedes is so far off on pace otherwise they'd be in the game too
This is a fair point - I hadn’t looked at the forecast. Fingers crossed it warms up (isn’t it nearly summer in Brazil?)

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i think max helped us win this, without him, norris would have won

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.Bole wrote:
28 Oct 2024, 01:39
i think max helped us win this, without him, norris would have won
Absolutely, indirectly max saved getting his lead reduced even further.

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Verstappen and Ferrari working together to beat Mclaren. It's easy for me to cheer because I'm both Verstappen and Ferrari fan :D.

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pantherxxx wrote:
28 Oct 2024, 03:40
It's easy for me to cheer because I'm both Verstappen and Ferrari fan :D.
How is this possible? :D

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WCC points, standings after 20 races are as follows:

2004 - 628 total, 34.9 points per race (latest points system, 18 races)

2007 – 500 total, 29.4 points per race (latest points system, 17 races)

2017 – 522 total, 26.1 points per race (latest points system, 20 races)

2018 – 571 total, 28.6 points per race (latest points system, 21 races)

2022 – 487

2023 - 362

2024 – 537

In an exceptional turnaround, Ferrari scoring 96 points in 2 weekends propelled this season slightly above 2017 and well clear of 2022. Looking at the number of wins, 5 wins equals 2017 as well and 1 more than 2022. Binotto's been replaced by a superior species 8)

In the final 4 weekends, Ferrari should be able to score 100-150 points as there are two more Sprints too. Getting in a clear battle with McLaren for top positions ensures there is a maximised points pool available, in theory there's 206 points available yet. Still, McLaren's rear wing cheating stole Ferrari precious points in Baku and a double podium in Monza and it absolutely leaves a bitter taste of FIA/FOM manipulation...

What a difference Vasseur's leadership made and it looks like they are nowhere near done yet
And they call it a stall. A STALL!

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