2024 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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Juzh
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Vanja #66 wrote:
31 Oct 2024, 13:34
Juzh wrote:
31 Oct 2024, 13:08
Nah, mclaren dominates 120-250 corners, of which there are many in brazil. If you look at f1-tempo from mexico you'll see mclaren is leagues ahead of ferrari in those.
Ferrari is good over kerbs and in general in slow speed, something not present in either brazil or qatar.
Mclaren was nearly on pace with Max in brazil already in 2023 and they were fastest in qatar. This year they'll cruise to easy win, provided norris doesnt do his usual choke with the best car.
I disregard Mexico, because these two cars were set up very differently, McLaren was down 5kmh on Top Speed and lately they are 1-2kmh down at most. Ferrari was down 15kmh in T7 and T9 in Q3 which is worse than RB19 vs SF23. Ferrari was down only 3kmh in Ascari this year, where McLaren used Spa wings vs Ferrari Monza wings.

Esses are Ferrari's main weakness since Monza (a lot smaller than they were in Japan though), I think this may be down to softer roll stiffness and on purpose, perhaps even an inherit trait of SF24 just like '22 and '23 cars.
Only a day left to find out. I still believe mclaren will walk it, but I'd happily be wrong.

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Vanja #66
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Juzh wrote:
31 Oct 2024, 13:37
Only a day left to find out. I still believe mclaren will walk it, but I'd happily be wrong.
Only if weather plays nice for SQ at least :lol: I also expect McLaren stronger than Ferrari in any case, but rain on Sunday will be a huge factor
And they call it a stall. A STALL!

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bananapeel23
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Vanja #66 wrote:
31 Oct 2024, 13:34
Juzh wrote:
31 Oct 2024, 13:08
Nah, mclaren dominates 120-250 corners, of which there are many in brazil. If you look at f1-tempo from mexico you'll see mclaren is leagues ahead of ferrari in those.
Ferrari is good over kerbs and in general in slow speed, something not present in either brazil or qatar.
Mclaren was nearly on pace with Max in brazil already in 2023 and they were fastest in qatar. This year they'll cruise to easy win, provided norris doesnt do his usual choke with the best car.
I disregard Mexico, because these two cars were set up very differently, McLaren was down 5kmh on Top Speed and lately they are 1-2kmh down at most. Ferrari was down 15kmh in T7 and T9 in Q3 which is worse than RB19 vs SF23. Ferrari was down only 3kmh in Ascari this year, where McLaren used Spa wings vs Ferrari Monza wings.

Esses are Ferrari's main weakness since Monza (a lot smaller than they were in Japan though), I think this may be down to softer roll stiffness and on purpose, perhaps even an inherit trait of SF24 just like '22 and '23 cars.
Is there even any point in comparing the Sao Paulo esses to the COTA/Japan/Jeddah/Silverstone esses? They are much slower, after a hard braking zone and downhill. Or were you just talking about esses in general, not specifically about Brazil?

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Vanja #66
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bananapeel23 wrote:
31 Oct 2024, 15:51
Is there even any point in comparing the Sao Paulo esses to the COTA/Japan/Jeddah/Silverstone esses? They are much slower, after a hard braking zone and downhill. Or were you just talking about esses in general, not specifically about Brazil?
I kind of consider Esses at least 4 apexes and high speed, T1-2-3 in Interlagos is a chicane and a high-speed full-throttle T3. I was talking about Esses in general, like Suzuka, Silverstone, COTA etc
And they call it a stall. A STALL!

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deadhead
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Yes, let's hope it stays dry because the SF24 will most likely be a better match to the competition than it was in Mexico.

https://x.com/LrLucaruocco/status/1851947211824758960

"Here we go to Interlagos. Let's start with the design. With the new SF-24 post Monza, I feel like saying that the only curves that are still scary are the medium-high speed ESSEs. A problem that has been there since the beginning of the year. Melbourne, Suzuka, Imola, Austria, Silverstone, Mexico."