Scuderia Ferrari 2012

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Goran2812 wrote:Alonso`s championship is over... Tnx ferrari
you know..i am really annoyed by this kind of comments... not only in the Scuderia Ferrari thread...but also in the F2012 thread...
these are immature comments that even the person who writes them doesn't believe them...do i have to remind you of what happened in Valencia?

remember this...Alonso will be on the podium tomorrow!

the championship is not ruined...they managed to salvage the championship with a dreadful winter and very bad results from the first 4 races except Alonso's win in Malaysia..they are not going to give up now...

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Sombrero wrote:Is it possible to repair the Alonso's roll bar for the race ? Or not (parc fermé) ?
yes! the car will be repaired

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amouzouris wrote:
Goran2812 wrote:Alonso`s championship is over... Tnx ferrari
you know..i am really annoyed by this kind of comments... not only in the Scuderia Ferrari thread...but also in the F2012 thread...
these are immature comments that even the person who writes them doesn't believe them...do i have to remind you of what happened in Valencia?

remember this...Alonso will be on the podium tomorrow!

the championship is not ruined...they managed to salvage the championship with a dreadful winter and very bad results from the first 4 races except Alonso's win in Malaysia..they are not going to give up now...
Couldn't agree more Z. Makes me sick, yet we shouldn't be surprised as these are the same people who claimed the season over after Australia Quali.
Fer could've gotten pole for sure! And he will be on a mission tomorrow. I think a podium is very much possible. He must get a good start and get a few cars at the start which we know is entirely possible. Let's hope there's no 1st corner incidents like Spa tomorrow.

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Crucial_Xtreme wrote:
amouzouris wrote:
Goran2812 wrote:Alonso`s championship is over... Tnx ferrari
you know..i am really annoyed by this kind of comments... not only in the Scuderia Ferrari thread...but also in the F2012 thread...
these are immature comments that even the person who writes them doesn't believe them...do i have to remind you of what happened in Valencia?

remember this...Alonso will be on the podium tomorrow!

the championship is not ruined...they managed to salvage the championship with a dreadful winter and very bad results from the first 4 races except Alonso's win in Malaysia..they are not going to give up now...
Couldn't agree more Z. Makes me sick, yet we shouldn't be surprised as these are the same people who claimed the season over after Australia Quali.
Fer could've gotten pole for sure! And he will be on a mission tomorrow. I think a podium is very much possible. He must get a good start and get a few cars at the start which we know is entirely possible. Let's hope there's no 1st corner incidents like Spa tomorrow.
Agreed! I'm glad there are sane and clever people like you in this forum!
Alonso will be really motivated tomorrow...and with the grandstands being exclusively red...he will get a push....lets hope that every horse on the flags on the grandstands will transform into more horsepower and propel Alonso and Massa to a very good result!

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Goran2812 wrote:Alonso`s championship is over... Tnx ferrari
Fair weather fan :roll: .

The Scuderia always bounce back, look at the start of the season for god's sake.

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Just for your information,everyone has a right to say what they want... He had a 40 point advantage before Spa and Grosjean. His lead should have been even larger after Spa because he would have driven a great race for sure but that was not the case. Today he would have been on pole but his car failed and instead of creating a gap to everyone behind him after the start, he will be in the middle od the pack with a potential dissaster at the first corner... That doesn't worry you at all? I watch F1 only because of him, and when things don't work out, I'm sad and angry... It's not going to be a steady and peacefull ride until the last race od the season,and EVERY point will count! If he wins the wdc I'll be as happy as all of you guys,but imagine if the wdc slips from his hands by a points margin equivalent to a race win,let's say in Monza and a podium finish in let' say Spa... Would you be angry? I know I would be...
But it seems it's better to keep your lousy mouth shut around here. God forbid you even dare to say something that could be realistic in even a slightest way...

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Goran2812 wrote:Just for your information,everyone has a right to say what they want... He had a 40 point advantage before Spa and Grosjean. His lead should have been even larger after Spa because he would have driven a great race for sure but that was not the case. Today he would have been on pole but his car failed and instead of creating a gap to everyone behind him after the start, he will be in the middle od the pack with a potential dissaster at the first corner... That doesn't worry you at all? I watch F1 only because of him, and when things don't work out, I'm sad and angry... It's not going to be a steady and peacefull ride until the last race od the season,and EVERY point will count! If he wins the wdc I'll be as happy as all of you guys,but imagine if the wdc slips from his hands by a points margin equivalent to a race win,let's say in Monza and a podium finish in let' say Spa... Would you be angry? I know I would be...
But it seems it's better to keep your lousy mouth shut around here. God forbid you even dare to say something that could be realistic in even a slightest way...

Toma Fernando!!!
the thing is...you are over reacting
and you are blaming ferrari for what happened....and in your later post....you blame grosjean...you cant decide who to blame...dont blame anyone....ferrari has been very good this season! they are not the one to blame if he loses the championship...we will all be sad if he loses it....but alonso is a fighter and ferrari is the best team....his pace in monza is very very good....he will get a good result

what happened today was bad luck...

edit: you post suggested that they did it on purpose...as i said..it was just bad luck

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Spa was Grosjean's fault, and nope, I never said they did anything to the car on purpose... That taught never crossed my mind, not even for a second. Alonso is their leader and the one who could possibly lead them to the glory days just like Schumacher did... But stuff like this today, with a faulty part on the car must not happen if they wan't to win... But yes, bad luck, and nothing that could have been done about it... It's just hard for me to get over it, that's all...
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Crucial_Xtreme wrote:Couldn't agree more Z. Makes me sick, yet we shouldn't be surprised as these are the same people who claimed the season over after Australia Quali.
Fer could've gotten pole for sure! And he will be on a mission tomorrow. I think a podium is very much possible. He must get a good start and get a few cars at the start which we know is entirely possible. Let's hope there's no 1st corner incidents like Spa tomorrow.
Showing up in Melbourne with the sixth- or seventh-fastest car after a disastrous winter is a bit different than a simple broken suspension component that just happens to relegate the team's best driver, and championship leader, to tenth on the grid at Monza. Though the latter does call into question the team's gratuitous use of tape on the rear suspension. ;)

It's just bad luck.

That said, starting tenth is far from the death sentence it's thus far been made out to be around here, and having a pesky driver starting ahead in third is an asset. Given Ferrari's typical, prodigious starts, Massa could very well be leading the race by the first corner, and it wouldn't surprise me at all to see Alonso up around fifth at the end of the first lap.

Good things are still possible. They'll be even sweeter if they happen, too.

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bhallg2k wrote: Showing up in Melbourne with the sixth- or seventh-fastest car after a disastrous winter is a bit different than a simple broken suspension component that just happens to relegate the team's best driver, and championship leader, to tenth on the grid at Monza. Though the latter does call into question the team's gratuitous use of tape on the rear suspension. ;)

It's just bad luck.

That said, starting tenth is far from the death sentence it's thus far been made out to be around here, and having a pesky driver starting ahead in third is an asset. Given Ferrari's typical, prodigious starts, Massa could very well be leading the race by the first corner, and it wouldn't surprise me at all to see Alonso up around fifth at the end of the first lap.

Good things are still possible. They'll be even sweeter if they happen, too.
You're missing the point about Australia. The point is many people, you included, claimed the season was over and there was no way Ferrari could recover. But they did. I'm not necessarily lumping you into that group of people because I honestly don't think of you as a doom & gloomer, just trying to make a point.
Yes what happened today sucks. Yes it could've turned out much better. But as you said, it's not a death sentence and Fernando can finish quite well from where he starts. People have been counting Ferrari out all season long and they've proved people wrong. Just like the person that said the WDC is now over, he's one who thought it was over after Australia quali... how wrong he was then. How wrong he is now. :))

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bhallg2k wrote:It's just bad luck.
Au contraire, would Plato agree with the ideal of "luck"? ;)

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I think Plato would say, "What do you think, Socrates?" and his response would invariably be along the lines of, "I drank what?"

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Crucial_Xtreme wrote: You're missing the point about Australia. The point is many people, you included, claimed the season was over and there was no way Ferrari could recover. But they did. I'm not necessarily lumping you into that group of people because I honestly don't think of you as a doom & gloomer, just trying to make a point.
Yes what happened today sucks. Yes it could've turned out much better. But as you said, it's not a death sentence and Fernando can finish quite well from where he starts. People have been counting Ferrari out all season long and they've proved people wrong. Just like the person that said the WDC is now over, he's one who thought it was over after Australia quali... how wrong he was then. How wrong he is now. :))
I was claiming that too, and rationally speaking Ferrari would not stand a chance if not for a few lucky and very strategically bad luck moments at the competition, plus some rain races where Alonso could show what he is made of.
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Defeatist comments shall not weary the loyal and educated of the Tifosi/Ferrari enthusiasts.

I'm fairly confident with today's race, and also in a few weeks time.

Might I throw a thought out there.

Mclarens package came a wee bit fast in Spa/Monza...they may of revealed their cards a bit too early.

Ferrari have slated Singapore for sometime now for this "massive" update package...I feel very very excited about this!
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bhallg2k wrote:[...]
Given Ferrari's typical, prodigious starts, Massa could very well be leading the race by the first corner, and it wouldn't surprise me at all to see Alonso up around fifth at the end of the first lap.

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Off by one each. :(