sosic2121 wrote: β26 May 2021, 20:01He's in a dominate car by pure luck and because Dietrich awarded Webber with on more yearPlatinumZealot wrote: β26 May 2021, 13:18That's formula 1. The greats deserve the best cars. In feudal Japan only the best swords found the best samurai. Imagine a weak Samurai with a great sword? That sword would be snatched from him in no time! This is also why Lewis' long tenure of 9 years in that Mercedes seat, like a king holding his throne, is also a testament to greatness. George, Carlos, Leclerc, Lando and Max can only dream of ever displacing Lewis there. Lewis has to either become senile (in driving terms) or retire from the seat. The team loves him and want him there.
OK, I'm not necessarily contradicting you, but, AFAIK he was going to RB(pretty logical back then) butPlatinumZealot wrote: β26 May 2021, 23:05sosic2121 wrote: β26 May 2021, 20:01He's in a dominate car by pure luck and because Dietrich awarded Webber with on more yearPlatinumZealot wrote: β26 May 2021, 13:18That's formula 1. The greats deserve the best cars. In feudal Japan only the best swords found the best samurai. Imagine a weak Samurai with a great sword? That sword would be snatched from him in no time! This is also why Lewis' long tenure of 9 years in that Mercedes seat, like a king holding his throne, is also a testament to greatness. George, Carlos, Leclerc, Lando and Max can only dream of ever displacing Lewis there. Lewis has to either become senile (in driving terms) or retire from the seat. The team loves him and want him there.
Interesting comment there.
I have some interesting findings i want to share:
Pure (dumb) luck
Mercedes handpicking him because of marketing reasons.
Hamilton jumped ship for more money.
Hamilton knew the car was going to be dominant for years to come.
These are some of the less flattering reasons given by different posters explaining how Hamilton ended up in Merc. They dont have a unifying voice at all.
In my view I dont think it matters at all becuase it wasn't as if he was forced out of McLaren because he couldn't perform. He left because McLaren was a shambles at the time and Mercedes had a sensible team lead by Ross Brawn.
But anyway this is off topic.
Thats interesting, Iv'e not heard that before. So Lewis was happy to leave his home at Mclaren to join RedBull next to the guy who just won 3 (at the time) back to back titles and was being praised as the next Schumacher and best of his generation! And some people will still say Lewis never wants a strong team mate and wont let a good driver sit in the car next to him, but this story is saying he is happy to go to someone elses team and take on the best of the best .sosic2121 wrote: β27 May 2021, 07:55OK, I'm not necessarily contradicting you, but, AFAIK he was going to RB(pretty logical back then) butPlatinumZealot wrote: β26 May 2021, 23:05
Interesting comment there.
I have some interesting findings i want to share:
Pure (dumb) luck
Mercedes handpicking him because of marketing reasons.
Hamilton jumped ship for more money.
Hamilton knew the car was going to be dominant for years to come.
These are some of the less flattering reasons given by different posters explaining how Hamilton ended up in Merc. They dont have a unifying voice at all.
In my view I dont think it matters at all becuase it wasn't as if he was forced out of McLaren because he couldn't perform. He left because McLaren was a shambles at the time and Mercedes had a sensible team lead by Ross Brawn.
But anyway this is off topic.
Dietrich Mateschitz blocked that move because of Webber.
I believe much of Hamilton's move was dur to Haug, who was 'with' the Merc engine at Mclaren and Niki, who Hamilton had huge respect for all went theresosic2121 wrote: β27 May 2021, 07:55OK, I'm not necessarily contradicting you, but, AFAIK he was going to RB(pretty logical back then) butPlatinumZealot wrote: β26 May 2021, 23:05
Interesting comment there.
I have some interesting findings i want to share:
Pure (dumb) luck
Mercedes handpicking him because of marketing reasons.
Hamilton jumped ship for more money.
Hamilton knew the car was going to be dominant for years to come.
These are some of the less flattering reasons given by different posters explaining how Hamilton ended up in Merc. They dont have a unifying voice at all.
In my view I dont think it matters at all becuase it wasn't as if he was forced out of McLaren because he couldn't perform. He left because McLaren was a shambles at the time and Mercedes had a sensible team lead by Ross Brawn.
But anyway this is off topic.
Dietrich Mateschitz blocked that move because of Webber.
Of course he thought Seb beat him because he had better car, and if he could get in the same car he would have shot at WDC too.NathanOlder wrote: β27 May 2021, 08:53Thats interesting, Iv'e not heard that before. So Lewis was happy to leave his home at Mclaren to join RedBull next to the guy who just won 3 (at the time) back to back titles and was being praised as the next Schumacher and best of his generation! And some people will still say Lewis never wants a strong team mate and wont let a good driver sit in the car next to him, but this story is saying he is happy to go to someone elses team and take on the best of the best .sosic2121 wrote: β27 May 2021, 07:55OK, I'm not necessarily contradicting you, but, AFAIK he was going to RB(pretty logical back then) butPlatinumZealot wrote: β26 May 2021, 23:05
Interesting comment there.
I have some interesting findings i want to share:
Pure (dumb) luck
Mercedes handpicking him because of marketing reasons.
Hamilton jumped ship for more money.
Hamilton knew the car was going to be dominant for years to come.
These are some of the less flattering reasons given by different posters explaining how Hamilton ended up in Merc. They dont have a unifying voice at all.
In my view I dont think it matters at all becuase it wasn't as if he was forced out of McLaren because he couldn't perform. He left because McLaren was a shambles at the time and Mercedes had a sensible team lead by Ross Brawn.
But anyway this is off topic.
Dietrich Mateschitz blocked that move because of Webber.
Dudeβ¦ are you by any chance the director of Drive to Survive?Manoah2u wrote: β26 May 2021, 14:34On a total different note,
the immediate post-race podium interview with Coulthard was interesting for me in regards to mental battles.
Sainz did a masterclass of psychological warfare on Norris. Not only did he finish P2 in front of Norris, but he also delibaretely crashed his live interview.
He did it in a tongue in cheek manner but Norris' body language showed he was absolutely not enjoying that and became visually annoyed, to which Sainz threw a few extra on him.
Even though it is a bit of 'innocent' banter, imho they were some 'blows' by Carlos to Lando. "for once i'm happy to share for you".
This was indeed very interesting and a big surprise considering we saw the opposite in all previous races, Iβm surprised this isnβt talked about more.PlatinumZealot wrote: β27 May 2021, 18:26RedBull had better tyre life in Monaco. Basically even if HAM and BOT started 3rd and 4th the Bulls would have still won. Just take it as a damage limitation race for Merc which they failed to limit the damage.
https://www.planetf1.com/news/lewis-ham ... on-monaco/
Er, you have seen the whole rear wing debacle haven't you? Red Bull's rear wing might give them the ability to run plenty of wing and have a high top speed. In that case, Red Bull will be at the front.SirBastianVettel wrote: β27 May 2021, 19:49This was indeed very interesting and a big surprise considering we saw the opposite in all previous races, Iβm surprised this isnβt talked about more.PlatinumZealot wrote: β27 May 2021, 18:26RedBull had better tyre life in Monaco. Basically even if HAM and BOT started 3rd and 4th the Bulls would have still won. Just take it as a damage limitation race for Merc which they failed to limit the damage.
https://www.planetf1.com/news/lewis-ham ... on-monaco/
If Ref Bull manages to preserve its tires better in Baku they might have a chance against Mercedes in the race, because with that long straight they donβt have a fighting chance against them otherwise.
That wing is so mighty! Merc's only chance might be to bring back that Spa '17 engine.Just_a_fan wrote: β27 May 2021, 21:49Er, you have seen the whole rear wing debacle haven't you? Red Bull's rear wing might give them the ability to run plenty of wing and have a high top speed. In that case, Red Bull will be at the front.SirBastianVettel wrote: β27 May 2021, 19:49This was indeed very interesting and a big surprise considering we saw the opposite in all previous races, Iβm surprised this isnβt talked about more.PlatinumZealot wrote: β27 May 2021, 18:26RedBull had better tyre life in Monaco. Basically even if HAM and BOT started 3rd and 4th the Bulls would have still won. Just take it as a damage limitation race for Merc which they failed to limit the damage.
https://www.planetf1.com/news/lewis-ham ... on-monaco/
If Ref Bull manages to preserve its tires better in Baku they might have a chance against Mercedes in the race, because with that long straight they donβt have a fighting chance against them otherwise.