Kubica's Recovery

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why is he rallying and not doing circuit racing?

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Websta wrote:why is he rallying and not doing circuit racing?
A very good question. Makes no sense for his career to be derailed yet again by rallying, however much he loves it.
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Friday shakedown of track incident

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... upbY6LTN8Y#!

Saturday photo of the car after accident

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-5QLRpzaue8o/U ... 00/bum.jpg

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Websta wrote:why is he rallying and not doing circuit racing?
First of all, rallying consists of shorter stages, which allow for some recuperation in between the time trials.
Secondly, there is talk that his right wrist is not yet able to be positioned like what is necessary in a small cockpit like those of current singleseaters. It needs no explanation that he has no such problem in a rally car.

Finally, good to hear he's ok now, but I'm not sure if "luck" has anything to do with it. For those who are into rallying a bit, there has been a certain Belgian, Loic Duval, a works rally driver for one year. Very quick, but saw his contract ended because he was too crash-prone. Just a hint for Robert, take it easy and build up, but then again, that's probably not in his character.

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Thank you zonk. First I have seen of the accident, and it appears Kubica was "lucky" in that he wasnt injured. Rather see him pounding round in Pirelli's test car for a few months than doing this stuff. More appropriate to his return, and within reason, safer.
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Tomba wrote:
Websta wrote:why is he rallying and not doing circuit racing?
First of all, rallying consists of shorter stages, which allow for some recuperation in between the time trials.
Secondly, there is talk that his right wrist is not yet able to be positioned like what is necessary in a small cockpit like those of current singleseaters. It needs no explanation that he has no such problem in a rally car.
I didn't mean single seaters - I meant like WTCC or more junior sports car categories were space wouldn't be a problem either. It seems like that would make more sense than rallying to me if he were targeting a return to circuit racing, or do you think the shorter stages in rallying is a major factor? I was wondering if he is perhaps less optimistic about returning to F1 than he tells the media and may be targeting the WRC more seriously instead.

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who are we to give advice to robert? :wtf:
the guy is addicted to speed and that´s pretty much an uncurable desease..look as far as Villeneuve,Pironi,Zanardi and you get a picture.
He does what he has to do and hopefully he does not get carried away too much before we can watch him again in the safe environment of Formula 1 .. :roll:
I would sign him and put a very stringent contract in place not allowing him to do compete in rallies... :shock:

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No one can give Robert advice as to what he wants to do. If he loves doing it, then that is his right. But this is not his forte, and if heaven forbid anything untoward happened then that is goodnight F1.
I would really like to see him behind the wheel of an F1 car again, but it seems ever distant :(
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Although it starts to look like a dance with the devil, crap can happen anytime - he broke his leg after falling on ice at his house in January so... The important thing is that he hasn't got any rally fear or speed fear after his accident.

The thing that botheres and worries me that he maybe took it too far too early (rallying again) is that we can't see his hands in the car, we can't see movement, he masks everything. We know it's not confortable being watched all the time (as I am in the summer because I have a big ass surgery scar and a damaged muscle on my right foot), but it's not a shame to recognize that you took it too fast, or to take it easy - maybe he is too eager to demonstrate that he can do it again. I am 75% sure that he is driving more one-handed and the right arm is just for shifting gears.
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FoxHound wrote:
Websta wrote:why is he rallying and not doing circuit racing?
A very good question. Makes no sense for his career to be derailed yet again by rallying, however much he loves it.
He wont be allowed to do any open cockpit racing as they all will have regulations like f1.
13.1.4 From his normal seating position, with all seat belts fastened and whilst wearing his usual driving equipment, the driver must be able to remove the steering wheel and get out of the car within 5 seconds and then replace the steering wheel in a total of 10 seconds
maybe he doesnt like touring cars or sports car racing

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snoop1050 wrote:He wont be allowed to do any open cockpit racing as they all will have regulations like f1.
13.1.4 From his normal seating position, with all seat belts fastened and whilst wearing his usual driving equipment, the driver must be able to remove the steering wheel and get out of the car within 5 seconds and then replace the steering wheel in a total of 10 seconds
maybe he doesnt like touring cars or sports car racing
You're making a pretty big assumption there that he can't.

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But he can test Pirelli tyres, no?

The point being he needs to experience F1 again, and its unique challenges. Only then will he be able to answer everyone, and himself as to whether he is up to the challenge or not.
He is not affiliated to any team, but was at Renault. He drove the car that is being used by Pirelli to gather data on tyres. On the face of it, who better than Kubica to do the testing?
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FoxHound wrote:But he can test Pirelli tyres, no?

The point being he needs to experience F1 again, and its unique challenges. Only then will he be able to answer everyone, and himself as to whether he is up to the challenge or not.
He is not affiliated to any team, but was at Renault. He drove the car that is being used by Pirelli to gather data on tyres. On the face of it, who better than Kubica to do the testing?
he can barely move his arm... unless you see a video where it doesnt hang like a false arm?

theres no way you can get out of an f1 cockpit one handed in 5 seconds and we often see people with alot of dexterity in there hands struggling to put the steering wheel back on

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sky sports f1 on KUB

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJ-bX_qiZ4c

and a photo of a middle finger for unbelievers :lol:

http://www.rmf24.pl/sport/zdjecie,iId,8 ... ,5,iTime,1
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snoop1050 wrote:
FoxHound wrote:But he can test Pirelli tyres, no?

The point being he needs to experience F1 again, and its unique challenges. Only then will he be able to answer everyone, and himself as to whether he is up to the challenge or not.
He is not affiliated to any team, but was at Renault. He drove the car that is being used by Pirelli to gather data on tyres. On the face of it, who better than Kubica to do the testing?
he can barely move his arm... unless you see a video where it doesnt hang like a false arm?

theres no way you can get out of an f1 cockpit one handed in 5 seconds and we often see people with alot of dexterity in there hands struggling to put the steering wheel back on
Absense of evidence is not evidence of absense. I'd say the fact that he can steer a rally car while at the same time changing gears is a good indication that he has significant movement in it.