2023 Italian Grand Prix - Monza, Sep 01 - 03

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TwanV wrote:
03 Sep 2023, 22:16
About Lewis' comment, he's right. Not sure why the comment is really necessary I think no one will argue too hard, he had some tough teammates. Toto's comment, to say that its just a stat that nobody cares about.. I think everybody in Brackley working hard to do the best possible job would strongly disagree; the only thing that in all their dominance they were unable to match. Having your boss say he doesn't respect that, in my opinion terrible leadership. 10 in a row for Max, 15 in a row for Red Bull (both records) is a 100% team achievement. Respect.
I'd be surprised if people in the factory are that worried about Toto saying the record isn't important - they want to win races, yes, but its the title that is important as that's where the bonuses come from. People appreciate extra money in their bank accounts over a nominal record here and there.
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Aston have lost their WCC position due to the one car team situation. The morale on that side of the garage must be very low

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FW17 wrote:
31 Aug 2023, 07:54
I wish somebody brings a single element rear wing

https://cdn-8.motorsport.com/images/mgl ... rear-1.jpg

https://cdn-5.motorsport.com/static/img ... mp4-22.jpg
This one if interesting too :wtf:


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fritticaldi wrote:
03 Sep 2023, 21:58
Lance Stroll was non-competitive all weekend. Whats up with him ?
Nothing's up with him, he's just being himself. Stroll of old that had some flashes of good driving is gone, this is what remains. It's the new normal.

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organic wrote:
03 Sep 2023, 22:46
Aston have lost their WCC position due to the one car team situation. The morale on that side of the garage must be very low
Yes. And i do wonder how far aston will fall with anonymous 2nd car. I hear Lance is considering playing tennis now.
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We have to say the car was pretty bad today, I was surprised by how much the car suffer around there, even if we know that the AM is more at ease in twisty tracks.
I'm not even sure Alonso would've finished in the point had Tsunoda not DNF.

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PlatinumZealot wrote:
03 Sep 2023, 20:35
Spoutnik wrote:
03 Sep 2023, 19:38
At least the race was less of a snoozefest. We had a battle for the lead during the first stint.

Overall it will be a season to forget, it's even worse than 2015. 2011 was a really dominant year from Vettel but the races were enjoyable (China, Canada, Japan...)
That "battle" was like taking candy from a baby. Max was like, "Okay Rocky do you want me to pass him on lap twelve or lap fifteen? And erm.. Should I save my tyres while I'm at it or burn them out a little bit for some fun before the stops? Oh tell Joe Bauer that there is a loose plank on the top step of the podium. Mmyeah hit my toe on it last time. "
You are absolutely right. And when Sainz defended Verstappen was just managing the risks, whereas he would've probably finished the maneuver in 2021.

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Spoutnik wrote:
03 Sep 2023, 23:38
PlatinumZealot wrote:
03 Sep 2023, 20:35
Spoutnik wrote:
03 Sep 2023, 19:38
At least the race was less of a snoozefest. We had a battle for the lead during the first stint.

Overall it will be a season to forget, it's even worse than 2015. 2011 was a really dominant year from Vettel but the races were enjoyable (China, Canada, Japan...)
That "battle" was like taking candy from a baby. Max was like, "Okay Rocky do you want me to pass him on lap twelve or lap fifteen? And erm.. Should I save my tyres while I'm at it or burn them out a little bit for some fun before the stops? Oh tell Joe Bauer that there is a loose plank on the top step of the podium. Mmyeah hit my toe on it last time. "
You are absolutely right. And when Sainz defended Verstappen was just managing the risks, whereas he would've probably finished the maneuver in 2021.
They would have finished each other. Sainz was driving like Verstappen wasn't there and Verstappen already knows what happens when the other driver does this in T1.

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AR3-GP wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 00:26
Spoutnik wrote:
03 Sep 2023, 23:38
PlatinumZealot wrote:
03 Sep 2023, 20:35


That "battle" was like taking candy from a baby. Max was like, "Okay Rocky do you want me to pass him on lap twelve or lap fifteen? And erm.. Should I save my tyres while I'm at it or burn them out a little bit for some fun before the stops? Oh tell Joe Bauer that there is a loose plank on the top step of the podium. Mmyeah hit my toe on it last time. "
You are absolutely right. And when Sainz defended Verstappen was just managing the risks, whereas he would've probably finished the maneuver in 2021.
They would have finished each other. Sainz was driving like Verstappen wasn't there and Verstappen already knows what happens when the other driver does this in T1.
Yes, absolutely.

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ringo wrote:
03 Sep 2023, 23:31
organic wrote:
03 Sep 2023, 22:46
Aston have lost their WCC position due to the one car team situation. The morale on that side of the garage must be very low
Yes. And i do wonder how far aston will fall with anonymous 2nd car. I hear Lance is considering playing tennis now.
Not to worry Ringo, Lance dismissed the Tennis rumors so we will be in awe of his talents for many years to come :wink:

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lol, Will Buxton is such a pro. He stops an ignorant passer-by from blocking the camera with his mic and you barely miss a syllable of what he's saying!


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PlatinumZealot wrote:
03 Sep 2023, 16:51
It's was pretty much a racing incident. Wasn't foolish or malicious. Remember Leclerc did this in the same corner and went unpenalized a few years ago.
It's a signature ham move when (quote Alo) he's not driving upfront. It's actually really silly he keeps doing these things .. it's almost Maldonado-esque, fuming Yuki-esque.
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langedweil wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 01:11
PlatinumZealot wrote:
03 Sep 2023, 16:51
It's was pretty much a racing incident. Wasn't foolish or malicious. Remember Leclerc did this in the same corner and went unpenalized a few years ago.
It's a signature ham move when (quote Alo) he's not driving upfront. It's actually really silly he keeps doing these things .. it's almost Maldonado-esque, fuming Yuki-esque.
Apparently when your car is faster you can do as you wish and just run over other cars if they're not willing to concede the overtake.

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langedweil wrote:
04 Sep 2023, 01:11
PlatinumZealot wrote:
03 Sep 2023, 16:51
It's was pretty much a racing incident. Wasn't foolish or malicious. Remember Leclerc did this in the same corner and went unpenalized a few years ago.
It's a signature ham move when (quote Alo) he's not driving upfront. It's actually really silly he keeps doing these things .. it's almost Maldonado-esque, fuming Yuki-esque.
Signature Ham move it's not. You're just making stuff up. Lewis explained himself already. Angling the car for turn-in and he thought Piastri had enough space. Better to pass it off as a "senior moment."
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TimW wrote:
03 Sep 2023, 22:46
FW17 wrote:
31 Aug 2023, 07:54
I wish somebody brings a single element rear wing

https://cdn-8.motorsport.com/images/mgl ... rear-1.jpg

https://cdn-5.motorsport.com/static/img ... mp4-22.jpg
This one if interesting too :wtf:


I have seen that one.

I remember Williams or some other team in this DRS era in testing or at Monza practice where they ran without the upper flap(second element / DRS element), could not find the pics.

There was also this F3 car pic from 2011 Norsring, not sure if it race / allowed to race
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