Feels good to be dissapointed for being second..... haha.. Memories of the great past.
Would love to see a chrome papaya livery next year. Or white and papaya similair to the iconic white/red Senna era McLaren.
PP's been working on "side projects" for "years"? Is this just a different way of saying "not the aero lead," or is it inacccurate reporting, or actually the case?Mansell89 wrote: ↑09 Jul 2023, 00:19Comments from Lando Norris and Andrea Stella via BBC website following quali:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/66144514
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Andrea Stella:
The poor winter led to technical director James Key leaving the team and a restructure of McLaren's design department. And Stella singled out aerodynamics lead Peter Prodromou, brought back into front-line design after years on the side projects, for praise.
Yep, I think this proves that Key was a giant roadblock who was holding the team back!Darth-Piekus wrote: ↑08 Jul 2023, 17:04Can we safely say that sacking James Key, getting Andrea Stella in a higher position releasing the potential of Peter Prodromou and bringing Neil Oatley on the front did make a difference after all.
I've gotta say, I didn't hate it in the photos, but in-motion it goes from ok to looking fantastic.
This seems to confirm that Key had sidelined PP, and now he's back where he should be.Mostlyeels wrote: ↑09 Jul 2023, 03:35PP's been working on "side projects" for "years"? Is this just a different way of saying "not the aero lead," or is it inacccurate reporting, or actually the case?Mansell89 wrote: ↑09 Jul 2023, 00:19Comments from Lando Norris and Andrea Stella via BBC website following quali:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/66144514
...
Andrea Stella:
The poor winter led to technical director James Key leaving the team and a restructure of McLaren's design department. And Stella singled out aerodynamics lead Peter Prodromou, brought back into front-line design after years on the side projects, for praise.
Key was overall in charge and what I heard around the time of his departure was the aero team felt sidelined. So if I understand it, he was prioritising chassis dynamics ahead of aero efficiency. My belief is, humbly, that aero is at least 8.5/10 in performance hence why we stalled out in late 2021 with any aero development being at best, watered down despite the strong results up to Sochi.djos wrote: ↑09 Jul 2023, 04:11This seems to confirm that Key had sidelined PP, and now he's back where he should be.Mostlyeels wrote: ↑09 Jul 2023, 03:35PP's been working on "side projects" for "years"? Is this just a different way of saying "not the aero lead," or is it inacccurate reporting, or actually the case?Mansell89 wrote: ↑09 Jul 2023, 00:19Comments from Lando Norris and Andrea Stella via BBC website following quali:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/66144514
...
Andrea Stella:
The poor winter led to technical director James Key leaving the team and a restructure of McLaren's design department. And Stella singled out aerodynamics lead Peter Prodromou, brought back into front-line design after years on the side projects, for praise.
I was stunned when I read that, if that's the case it's a wonder he stayed this long in the team. He's a McLaren man, joined fresh out of University in the very early '90's, if I'm remembering accurately. Newey met him in the team and took him along to Redbull. James Allen in an article wrote that Newey never took people along with him whenever he moved, but such was the regard he had for Prodromou. I'm really curious to know the time-line of his movement from the front line.Mostlyeels wrote: ↑09 Jul 2023, 03:35PP's been working on "side projects" for "years"? Is this just a different way of saying "not the aero lead," or is it inacccurate reporting, or actually the case?Mansell89 wrote: ↑09 Jul 2023, 00:19Comments from Lando Norris and Andrea Stella via BBC website following quali:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/66144514
...
Andrea Stella:
The poor winter led to technical director James Key leaving the team and a restructure of McLaren's design department. And Stella singled out aerodynamics lead Peter Prodromou, brought back into front-line design after years on the side projects, for praise.