2021 Italian Grand Prix - Monza, Sep 10 - 12

[wesley123]

Racing incident, verstappen was entitled to space. Damon Hill making serious accusations

And just like in Silverstone, or many of Max' other incidents; That you can, doesn't mean that you should.

What he was trying here wasn't a move that was possible in any way, and considering the speed of the corner, he had quite a lot of time to back out.

[NL_Fer]

In lap 1 Lewis was also entitled to keep on track, but they would have crashed than already. He chose to prevent that.

[NathanOlder]

Dont forget George was in the points again

[ringo]

It cannot be spun all ways for Max.
Lap 1 or the the crash. Max fans pick your poison.
One must be a penalty.
Also Toto's comments on a tactical foul are correct.
Max had no intention of racing Lewis at all or avoiding a collision.

The most basic penalty he can get is for causing a collision and that would be a 5 place grid drop.

Lets say Max was innocently driving through that gap. The fact he tripped up abd wrecked Lewis race alone is enough to even say this is causing a collision.
So naturally it should at least be a 5 grid drop.
The wheel bounced on Lewis' head for christ sake. No way he doesnt get a penalty.

Also for added bonus i hope his exhaust manifolds and engine are damaged from this. It will teach redbull a lesson. Very Hypocrtical team!

[Mogster]

Max should have gone for the second escape road, it’s clear from his onboard. That’s why it’s there, to try to prevent these sorts of incidents. Max looked contrite talking to the RBR guys in the garage.

[Mattyw]

It cannot be spun all ways for Max.
Lap 1 or the the crash. Max fans pick your poison.
One must be a penalty.
Also Toto's comments on a tactical foul are correct.
Max had no intention of racing Lewis at all or avoiding a collision.

The most basic penalty he can get is for causing a collision and that would be a 5 place grid drop.

Lets say Max was innocently driving through that gap. The fact he tripped up abd wrecked Lewis race alone is enough to even say this is causing a collision.
So naturally it should at least be a 5 grid drop.
The wheel bounced on Lewis' head for christ sake. No way he doesnt get a penalty.

Also for added bonus i hope his exhaust manifolds and engine are damaged from this. It will teach redbull a lesson. Very Hypocrtical team!

He is due a new engine anyway so if he gets a grid drop he will just take the new engine then.

[Just_a_fan]

Horner is having a mare here. Especially with trying to defend Perez as well as Verstappen. I've never seen him look so sheepish and short of things to say.

Perez's move and subsequent penalty ruined the race at the front. Red Bull knew Perez would get a penalty but also knew that Bottas would likely struggle to pass him if he got behind him. By leaving Perez there - rather than telling him to give the place back (which was obviously what should have happened as Perez was totally off track making the move), they ruined Bottas's chance to take second or even the win. Obviously done to limit Mercedes points tally for the weekend.

[djones]

Although for me it was very clearly Max's fault, it was super stupid of Lewis to take the risk. Max had everything to gain by them both going off.

If Hamilton had let him just go past he would have got him in the next few laps and gone on to win the race. Very short-sighted from him.

[El Scorchio]

Johnny Herbert thinks it was intentional as well.

[RonMexico]

Racing incident, verstappen was entitled to space. Damon Hill making serious accusations

And just like in Silverstone, or many of Max' other incidents; That you can, doesn't mean that you should.

What he was trying here wasn't a move that was possible in any way, and considering the speed of the corner, he had quite a lot of time to back out.

I agree but what transpired isn't a penalty, it really is a racing incident as far as I can see

[Mr.S]

Here, Hamilton never gave Max a car's width when they were alongside when he was coming from his pitstop.

I don't think you realize how tight the chicane really is. Giving the space isn't reasonably possible, especially not when the attacker isn't even ahead.

He pushed Max into the sausage kerb & didn't leave any width when Max was alongside.

Max let himself get pushed on the sausage. He should have conceded, like any rational thinking driver would.

The suggestion that he even thought he could make the corner was completely irrational and the whole move was just typical Max.

It is a pattern which is going on since Silverstone. Hamilton will resort to any dirty act much like Abu Dhabhi 2016 !

And that's just rather childish to claim.

[cut] The question of overtaking Hamilton never arises as Hamilton was never ahead in any corner. He was coming from the pitstop @ slower pace & was barely ahead. Max had much better traction out of the corner. Why did he push Max into the sausage kerb without a cars width?

He was never a full car length or even half a car length ahead. He knew Max was alongside him braking. And he gave him no space. No steward in the world will ever blame this on Max. [cut]

[JordanMugen]

Great job by Ricciardo, Norris and McLaren!

Racing incident, verstappen was entitled to space. Damon Hill making serious accusations

And just like in Silverstone, or many of Max' other incidents; That you can, doesn't mean that you should.

What he was trying here wasn't a move that was possible in any way, and considering the speed of the corner, he had quite a lot of time to back out.

Hamilton had every chance to back out and cordially concede the corner to Verstappen too. It seems, as PdR showed, HAM did not leave enough space for VER between the car and the apex of the corner. As Alonso says, a car's width has to be left considering that the cars were fully alongside.

[Spacepace]

Hamilton walking in the paddock is looking stiff

[Just_a_fan]

Max should have gone for the second escape road, it’s clear from his onboard. That’s why it’s there, to try to prevent these sorts of incidents. Max looked contrite talking to the RBR guys in the garage.

Exactly so. His body language and his attitude was not that of a man that felt hard done by but that of a man who felt he'd done something wrong.

I don't expect any penalties from it. I think Horner and Max will go in to the stewards on their knees and soft soap their way through it. It'll be a "racing incident" and Max will have a nett gain from the weekend.

[Ryar]

It is understandable why Sky commentary team is over the top with their reaction here and making the incident intentional and all, instead of being objective about racing and what the rules state.