2021 Italian Grand Prix - Monza, Sep 10 - 12

[101FlyingDutchman]

I hope the two of them get together outside of stewards And media and just have a chat about how to proceed. Max was lucky in Silverstone not to be more badly hurt and Lewis can thank his lucky stars for the HALO.

I’m not sure what can be said though. I guess that’s why ROS and HAM fell out even though they were close friends. Nature of competitive sport. I just hope the ruthlessness doesn’t end up in proper tears. A few proper warning shots with lucky outcomes. It won’t always go this way. And I hope I’m wrong

[Starkblood80]

I hope the two of them get together outside of stewards And media and just have a chat about how to proceed. Max was lucky in Silverstone not to be more badly hurt and Lewis can thank his lucky stars for the HALO.

I’m not sure what can be said though. I guess that’s why ROS and HAM fell out even though they were close friends. Nature of competitive sport. I just hope the ruthlessness doesn’t end up in proper tears. A few proper warning shots with lucky outcomes. It won’t always go this way. And I hope I’m wrong

Verstappen just needs to learn how to race wheel to wheel and when to look further forward than the corner he’s driving around and concede the position.

[jjn9128]

Silverstone payback!!!

People really need to grow up and so does Max if you think he would do that.
Such things can result in a death.

Sore as it sounds I am not certain this really couldn't have played. I am sure VER hadn't forgotten the 51G incident. Although to me it looked as nothing more than an overeager attempt to take benefit of HAM's cold tires.

What worries me is that this could derail in an all out war with an ugly look for the spectators.

COULD???? It already has, especially as fans of each are becoming more polarized/frenzied/dogmatic. Both need a time out IMO.

[Gillian]

I don't know but to me both incidents, being Silverstone and today, are racing incidents and I don't believe for a second there is any intent to hurt one another. Its the "fans", media and so-called experts that are building this narrative that they are actually trying to kill each other.

Both drivers could have prevented the accident today, both chose not to. Hamilton "fans" will blame Verstappen and vice versa. I don't blame either. It was very unlucky, just 1 or 2 inches away of nothing major happening.

I mean, if you really want to go as far as to think Hamilton aimed for Verstappens wheel in Silverstone and knew how to do it without crashing himself.... Likewise claiming Verstappen knew he would touch the curb and fly of to hit Hamilton on the head.... Really?

Also just look at how they, the drivers themselves, interact. I don't see hostility, hate or anything.

[Just_a_fan]

Hamilton says he has a sore neck and decent headache. Could have been worse but for the hardware now required around the drivers.

Brundle knows all too well the feeling having been actually hit by Max's dad's wheel back in 1994. Much harder and Brundle wouldn't be commentating today. Verstappen Snr was lucky that day too as his car barrel-rolled in the impact. All down to Irvine being oblivious of what was going on a round him.

[Just_a_fan]

I don't know but to me both incidents, being Silverstone and today, are racing incidents and I don't believe for a second there is any intent to hurt one another. Its the "fans", media and so-called experts that are building this narrative that they are actually trying to kill each other.

Both drivers could have prevented the accident today, both chose not to. Hamilton "fans" will blame Verstappen and vice versa. I don't blame either. It was very unlucky, just 1 or 2 inches away of nothing major happening.

I mean, if you really want to go as far as to think Hamilton aimed for Verstappens wheel in Silverstone and knew how to do it without crashing himself.... Likewise claiming Verstappen knew he would touch the curb and fly of to hit Hamilton on the head.... Really?

Also just look at how they, the drivers themselves, interact. I don't see hostility, hate or anything.

Indeed so. The media are desperate to talk up this season in to one of animosity. They would love this to roll on through the rest of the season with some huge fist-fight type ending at the last race. Yes, that's what they want.

The drivers? They're just "it's racing, get over it".

[jjn9128]

IMO both drivers need their grandma's to sit them down and tell them they're being very silly

[DChemTech]

I hope the two of them get together outside of stewards And media and just have a chat about how to proceed. Max was lucky in Silverstone not to be more badly hurt and Lewis can thank his lucky stars for the HALO.

I’m not sure what can be said though. I guess that’s why ROS and HAM fell out even though they were close friends. Nature of competitive sport. I just hope the ruthlessness doesn’t end up in proper tears. A few proper warning shots with lucky outcomes. It won’t always go this way. And I hope I’m wrong

Verstappen just needs to learn how to race wheel to wheel and when to look further forward than the corner he’s driving around and concede the position.

Can you please stop with the whole Verstappen is to blame for everything and anything and Hamilton is a flawless demigod narrative? Two drivers are racing hard this season and both have been making mistakes. Today it was mostly Max, in other cases it was not. Putting the 'problem' as solely being due to Verstappen again and again does not due justice to what has been happening, nor does it improve the atmosphere of this forum.

[Gillian]

Netflix will have to split it into 2 seasons at this rate.

[Starkblood80]

I hope the two of them get together outside of stewards And media and just have a chat about how to proceed. Max was lucky in Silverstone not to be more badly hurt and Lewis can thank his lucky stars for the HALO.

I’m not sure what can be said though. I guess that’s why ROS and HAM fell out even though they were close friends. Nature of competitive sport. I just hope the ruthlessness doesn’t end up in proper tears. A few proper warning shots with lucky outcomes. It won’t always go this way. And I hope I’m wrong

Verstappen just needs to learn how to race wheel to wheel and when to look further forward than the corner he’s driving around and concede the position.

Can you please stop with the whole Verstappen is to blame for everything and anything and Hamilton is a flawless demigod narrative? Two drivers are racing hard this season and both have been making mistakes. Today it was mostly Max, in other cases it was not. Putting the 'problem' as solely being due to Verstappen again and again does not due justice to what has been happening, nor does it improve the atmosphere of this forum.

Where did I say Hamilton was a demigod? Sure he’s made mistakes this season, the sprint race on Saturday being the most recent one but you cannot deny that any close racing with Verstappen inevitably leads to contact or the other driver having to concede the position wether they should or not.

[JordanMugen]

The-Race.com's photo is quite interesting and shows Verstappen well alongside:


Source: https://the-race.com/formula-1/our-verd ... -gp-clash/

Nevertheless, Red Bull will accept stewards' penalty without complaint.

[pantherxxx]

I'm shocked that Verstappen received a penalty for this. It was a racing accident at best, Verstappen was a little bit over optimistic with this movie, but Lewis didn't leave space on the inside at all. Even though Verstappen was definitely more than halfway past the defender at the apex.

[dans79]

I'm shocked that Verstappen received a penalty for this. It was a racing accident at best, Verstappen was a little bit over optimistic with this movie, but Lewis didn't leave space on the inside at all. Even though Verstappen was definitely more than halfway past the defender at the apex.

Per the stewards Lewis didn't have to leave him space.

The Stewards observed on CCTV footage that the driver of Car 44 was driving an
avoiding line, although his position caused Car 33 to go onto the kerb. But further, the
Stewards observed that Car 33 was not at all alongside Car 44 until significantly into
the entry into Turn 1. In the opinion of the Stewards, this manoeuvre was attempted
too late for the driver of Car 33 to have “the right to racing room”. While Car 44 could
have steered further from the kerb to avoid the incident, the Stewards determined that
his position was reasonable and therefore find that the driver of Car 33 was
predominantly to blame for the incident.

They basically make it sound like a dive-bomb around the outside.

[langedweil]

Verstappen just needs to learn how to race wheel to wheel and when to look further forward than the corner he’s driving around and concede the position.

Goes both ways ofcourse ..

[Starkblood80]

Verstappen just needs to learn how to race wheel to wheel and when to look further forward than the corner he’s driving around and concede the position.

Goes both ways ofcourse ..

You’d be correct if we saw the same incidents happening with Hamilton and other drivers but we don’t.