aMessageToCharlie wrote: ↑15 Sep 2021, 14:56
NathanOlder wrote: ↑15 Sep 2021, 14:22
aMessageToCharlie wrote: ↑15 Sep 2021, 14:11
A driver and his team were caught blatantly lying to the stuarts and fia about about gaining a position under sc.
Driver was asked by the stewards if he was told by his team to let another driver past and he said no which was a lie which could have resulted in this other driver being wrongly disqualified, had the lie not been discovered. Aka cheating. Which he was disqualified for. And still went on to win championships. Which was the main topic.
Oh you are mistakem, the main topic I was discussing with another user was about information being stolen from 1 team and taken to another team. Like Mclarens spygate mess. As I'm sure you are aware Stepney and Coughlan were sacked and removed completey by their teams for doing this. So as I said before, If a driver does this, he has no place in F1 and should be removed completely! So it has nothing to do with Australia 2009. Thank you.
Oh, excuse me. I thought this was about cheating per se being unacceptable and ALL cheaters should be thrown out of f1. But if we only count very specific kinds of cheating as relevant, then Australia 09 is OT of course.
Australia 2009 was a clear case of abuse of power. Do you think a young professional who is "lucky he is in the richest sport in the world in the first place," would ever be so bold to reject the orders of a senior team figure?
Which world do you live in?
Yes,In young Lewis' mind he HAD to do what he was told in the instance he was.
That wasn't malicious anyway. He didn't cheat on track and he only was following orders to lie to the Stewards. His character wasn't stained in any way. Can't even be considered cheating. The mistake was giving Trulli back the spot when Lewis should not have, then listening to his team leader to lie to defend that choice. Nary a blemish.
On the situation with Fernando Alonso.. I really can't say how malicious it was in 2007. Alonso himself has yet to fully reveal what happened on his part in the scandal. But even so, the cloud for Alonso come from the "betrayal towards Ron Dennis" itself more than the cheating. There was also another "Betrayal towards Ferrari" and another "Betrayal towards Honda". The Singapore 2008 he was the beneficiary, but I honestly don't think he knew exactly what the plan was.... or did he? Anyway, he is the second driver I support so I take the good with the bad.
