2021 AMG Mercedes F1 Team

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Morteza wrote:
14 Nov 2021, 22:27
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14 Nov 2021, 21:58
Hamilton called to the stewards again for safety belt breach. Will this ever end?
https://twitter.com/PhilDuncanF1/status ... slTsQ&s=19
Lewis probably reached into his pocket and said "can you make change" as he pulled out his wallet!
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Morteza wrote:
14 Nov 2021, 22:27
Tvetovnato wrote:
14 Nov 2021, 21:58
Hamilton called to the stewards again for safety belt breach. Will this ever end?
https://twitter.com/PhilDuncanF1/status ... slTsQ&s=19
Glad they sorted it out quickly for once…

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JPower wrote:
13 Nov 2021, 22:09
Incredible drive by both drivers. I thought Senna might've been riding shotgun in car 44.

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Toto is out for blood this weekend :lol:
"A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool."~William Shakespeare

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Morteza wrote:
14 Nov 2021, 23:23
Toto is out for blood this weekend :lol:
https://twitter.com/tgruener/status/145 ... x0X-A&s=19
I think the gloves have truly come off for Toto and Lewis, and that we might see full and unrelenting attack for the remainder of the season!
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dans79 wrote:
14 Nov 2021, 23:28
Morteza wrote:
14 Nov 2021, 23:23
Toto is out for blood this weekend :lol:
https://twitter.com/tgruener/status/145 ... x0X-A&s=19
I think the gloves have truly come off for Toto and Lewis, and that we might see full and unrelenting attack for the remainder of the season!
You're right, you can hear it in his voice "let's keep going, let's keep pushing!"

He's pumped up for the fight ahead.


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I’m surprised the sport won’t allow Mercedes to appeal that decision on the penalty with Verstappen. I think there’s a strong case that the onboard footage would be black and white if he did something intentionally or not, but there’s no doubt that a mistake was made that impeded another driver and the FIA are a joke since a Massi took over. Bottas should have P2. :lol:

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Mercedes's new recruit's opinion on his future teammate,


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A good read, from Andrew Benson.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/59285491

After a Sao Paulo classic, a gripping showdown for Lewis Hamilton & Max Verstappen

By Andrew Benson
Chief F1 writer

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Marty_Y wrote:
15 Nov 2021, 03:31
A good read, from Andrew Benson.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/59285491

After a Sao Paulo classic, a gripping showdown for Lewis Hamilton & Max Verstappen

By Andrew Benson
Chief F1 writer
good hamilton quote!
"I kind of dummied him into Turn One," Hamilton said. "I got to be able to position the car correctly through One and Two and I already knew through Three I would have a far better slingshot past him. And I knew at that point I was ahead going into the braking zone.

And you Can tell Toto is done being nice!
"We had a broken part on our rear wing which we couldn't look at, couldn't analyse, failed the test, and after got disqualified, very harsh," he said. "And then you see on the Red Bull repairs three races in a row on a rear wing while being in parc ferme with no consequence."

He went on to say that he was "losing faith in a way", adding: "We have just had many punches in the face this weekend. When all the decisions swing against you, it is something I am just angry about.

"I have always been very diplomatic in how I discuss things, but diplomacy has ended today."
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AeroDynamic wrote:
15 Nov 2021, 02:32
I’m surprised the sport won’t allow Mercedes to appeal that decision on the penalty with Verstappen. I think there’s a strong case that the onboard footage would be black and white if he did something intentionally or not, but there’s no doubt that a mistake was made that impeded another driver and the FIA are a joke since a Massi took over. Bottas should have P2. :lol:
To be honest, there are 2 hugely sus things about that whole ordeal:

1 - the fact NO onboard footage was shown. It exists, they have access to everybody's onboard camera's. Extremely suspicious it wasn't shown.

2 - the fact it was 'noted' instead of 'under investigation'. Thanks to it being 'noted' they could wipe it off the table. If it was 'under investigation' it could only have had 1 result: PENALTY.

but hey, Lewis did it like a man: he still beat the $%#@ out of Max.

Weaving couldnt stop him either.

You indeed could taste and see Toto's emotion, he was full warmode on. I liked that a lot. Will be interesting to see what the upcoming 3 GP's will result in.
"Explain the ending to F1 in football terms"
"Hamilton was beating Verstappen 7-0, then the ref decided F%$& rules, next goal wins
while also sending off 4 Hamilton players to make it more interesting"

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So when do we see Max's onboard. Karun and Anthony usually show these videos. Why don't we have them this weekend?
For Sure!!

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FIA has taken the sport backwards since 2019. I know we all don’t like penalties because they decide races. But I do think the solution instead of a time penalty is to offer the driver a choice: give the place to the driver you impeded, or take 5 seconds. The former allows the race to be decided by racing still, allows the race to really go on - the right way. Everyone gets their race without the FIA being so incompetent and weak. Jonathan Wheatley has literally turned out massi into some sort of pet. He literally told the FIA what the incident was instead of allowing the FIA to form their own opinion first. There’s something seriously wrong there, and in my opinion it is just as damaging to the integrity of the stewarding in F1 as it is to go personally lobbying at offices face to face.

I’m not one to sport tinfoil hats, however, it’s clear to me the FIA stewarding is skewed depending on who they are judging. And for me, they have gone from penalising max frequently (although the right decision most the time) to being too lenient where they otherwise wouldn’t be if it were someone else. It’s as if max has won the psychological game off track with them :lol:

‘Let them race’ has clearly become ‘let them foul until it becomes a crash’ for the benefit of “letting them race” but if it’s drivers further back, like Lando and Checo, they apply the rules like it’s pre 2019. #-o