2021 São Paulo Grand Prix - Interlagos, Nov 12-14

[siskue2005]

There was no investigation to protest though. If the stewards would’ve investigated and came to a ‘no action required’ decision then that’s a decision Mercedes could protest/appeal, no such investigation occurred though.

There’s no formal investigation documents on the FIA website for this incident, if there was then the usual wording about appealing the decision etc would be there to allow Mercedes to ask the incident to be re-reviewed.

Unless there is a mechanism for the FIA (either off their own back, or with pressure from Mercedes) to instigate in review of the incident then nothing can be done. It’s unlikely the FIA would do this too as it would risk making the stewards look incompetent by not even declaring the incident will be reviewed after the race, when Max’s onboards would’ve been available to them.

There is no such rule
Anyone can protest any results of the weekend

I know I’m going to sound like an a-hole here but I really don’t mean to.
Are there any examples of teams protesting the results due to driving standards (or lack thereof)

Also is the written in the sporting regs? I did have a look earlier but couldn’t see anything specifically as it all pointed to “appendix: 4.c.you’ll never find it.j.x.2b”

The only thing u cannot appeal is drive through from here
https://argent.fia.com/web/fia-public.n ... 07ANG.pdf

Please show me a link where they say u can only appeal a decision when the stewards have investigated it
From the Article 152 of the International Sporting Code it just says that only thing u cannot appeal is drive through

So that should mean rest of the decisions can be appealed

I am happy to be corrected if u get the article

[siskue2005]

[KeiKo403]

I was working on the basis that only stewards decisions could be appealed against.
You could very well be correct and I’m happy to stand corrected, in all honesty I failed to look at it the same way you did.

[SiLo]

https://i.ibb.co/tBTXPLS/many-max.png

A quite funny but also very revealing picture.

[djones]

During the race, I thought Max should have given the place back.

After watching the onboard video it's 100% a penalty and pretty disgusting driving. More disgusting of the FIA/F1 for letting it happen without even an investigation though.

[e30ernest]

Man that was indefensible. I do like the idea of Mercedes taking the high road and do the opposite of what Horner did at Silverstone but I do think the correct thing to do here is to protest.

Driving like this should have no place in F1.

[Wouter]

[Just_a_fan]

Yes, Karun, but "gently understeering" a track's width off track isn't good hard racing. And if it deserved a warning, it deserved a "give up the place" by gaining a lasting advantage by driving off track.

Anyway, precedent has now been set for these two drivers. If necessary, Lewis knows he can now do the same to Max with no worry of censure by anyone.

[AeroDynamic]

I guess when Max starts racing drivers that don’t get out of the way, and he has frequent crashes to his name once more, that will be when opinions and rules move with the times accordingly

This is not letting them race. It’s letting them crash and only looks like a show because one driver is being forced to avoid the driver when he shouldn’t have to.

[dans79]

Karun seems to forget that you could only get away with that when you were ahead when entering the braking zone, and you actually made the turn. Max wasn't ahead when entering the braking zone, and he missed the turn by several car widths!

[Just_a_fan]

I guess when Max starts racing drivers that don’t get out of the way, and he has frequent crashes to his name once more, that will be when opinions and rules move with the times accordingly

This is not letting them race. It’s letting them crash and only looks like a show because one driver is being forced to avoid the driver when he shouldn’t have to.

Exactly. It all looks ok because Hamilton got out of the way. He's done it often enough around Max over the years that he knows what to expect and how to react. If Max did the same thing in similar situations, he'd have left Silverstone with an intact car and a lot more points.

[dans79]

Mercades to Redbull "We are coming for you".....

[Just_a_fan]

Mercades to Redbull "We are coming for you".....

That'll be gloves off then.

Sadly, I don't think they'll get anywhere with it.

[dans79]

Sadly, I don't think they'll get anywhere with it.

probably not, but i'm sure some people will be very uncomfortable for a while!

[Hoffman900]

Reminded of this quote from Barcelona:

“Turn 1 was mega. I mean Max, that was full Max Verstappen – he was just going for it – and he positioned the car fantastically well,” said Horner after the Spanish GP. “He tucked in, he got a little bit of a tow and a bit of momentum. And yeah he just braked later and ran the car wide. Thankfully Lewis had got out of it because otherwise he would have ended up in the fence,” he added.

I'm not a Merc apologists, but I hate seeing that crap in any racing.

Still not sure how people aren't more outraged by RedBull being able to change their rear wing in parc ferme three times.