2021 Qatar Grand Prix - Losail, Nov 19-21

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According to AMUS, Verstappen will visit the stewards tomorrow (1PM local time).

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kenshi_blind wrote:
20 Nov 2021, 20:17
search wrote:
20 Nov 2021, 20:15
f1jcw wrote:
20 Nov 2021, 19:41


Yoyoing around
Motorsport-Total/Formel1.de is not exactly a credible source. So the first information (about no upcoming investigation) doesn't necessarily need to be true. They'd blow out a "there's no investigation [currently]" quote into a sensational, click baiting story every time they have the chance to.
Skysports says he is under investigation , for what's worth
yeah, no doubt about that. I was just referring to the "yoyoing" by the FIA

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He still will get a pass. FIA are shook of Max’s hysterics when things don’t go the way he feels are entitled to him tbh. And don’t forget Wheatley, he’s steady turning his conversations with massi into friendship.

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Team ANTI-HYPE. Prove it, then I’ll anoint you.

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214270 wrote:
20 Nov 2021, 20:14
NathanOlder wrote:
20 Nov 2021, 19:54
214270 wrote:
20 Nov 2021, 19:46

Connelly is an interesting element in this as a steward, but a reprimand is my guess.
More than likely, yet Mercedes got a 3 place penalty for a single waved yellow infringement last season.
Absolutely, but something is defo in the air re: stewarding . Precedent is out the window and rules are being made as we go, so who knows.
Totally. And you can understand that they don’t want to potentially affect the outcome of the championship, but the rules are the rules and should always be enforced consistently and fairly even if they have ramifications. If this was something that was a cut and dried standard penalty in the third race of the season, for example, it should still be exactly the same in the third from last race in the season. Outside factors such as who is affected and how it alters the bigger picture should not come into the thinking.

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A collection of the footage from the various drivers passing Gasly

As always Alonso is a Wiley fox isn't he, he foresaw everything and slowed down... That would probably put him P3 =D>

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AeroDynamic wrote:
20 Nov 2021, 20:01
politburo wrote:
20 Nov 2021, 19:52
MtthsMlw wrote:
20 Nov 2021, 19:48


Thankfully it's for tomorrow 13:00 local :lol:
My guess is +3 places
The precedent is +5 places and 3 penalty points.
What?? You was going at people in this thread for ‘calling for penalties’ and preaching that everyone you assert to be my ‘companions’ don’t know what we are talking about, throwing the FIA rule book at us, and straight lawyering hard for Massi. Why are you saying this now??
politburo wrote:
20 Nov 2021, 18:13
AeroDynamic wrote:
20 Nov 2021, 18:10


Well if he broke the rules, rules are rules. They should do something. But they were looking the other way cause it’s MV, poster boy for the new generation of fans
Nope. The rules are that your time gets deleted, at most they give your a reprimand especially if you ahven't done this regularly before. Do you not read any of the event documents and just make assumptions?. It's there in the event notes

https://i.imgur.com/KBp1rSQ.png

Unacceptable to talk as if you are the steward and everyone is idiots. :!:
politburo wrote:
20 Nov 2021, 18:45
AeroDynamic wrote:
20 Nov 2021, 18:42


I don’t know what you’re on about. But sounds like an attorney for FIA and RB up on here :lol:
I'm interested in not muddying the truth with narratives but to be honest I'd rather be on that side than yours. Look at the many ridiculous things you and your companions are posting, none of who include opinions based on any fact rather just conjecture. Call for penalties for everything because your favorite driver actually had some competition for the first time in 3 years. :lol:

This didn’t age well
I need not assert anyone as your companions, it is clear by the general nature of your posts, association by similarity. And I'd rather be against all the nonsense that brings to a technical forum than to slander Masi for "drivers feeling like they don't know the rules" as per one of your posts, and for insinuating that all the FIA does is screw Mercedes. It's clear you are not familiar with their processes, so why speak on them and slander Masi?. Ask yourself.

As for the last part, I also said Max deserves a penalty if he was aware of the track hazard, and precedent backs that up. So does Bottas, there is also precedent and reasonable cause in his case, as he driver right in front slowed down.
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El Scorchio wrote:
20 Nov 2021, 20:22
214270 wrote:
20 Nov 2021, 20:14
NathanOlder wrote:
20 Nov 2021, 19:54


More than likely, yet Mercedes got a 3 place penalty for a single waved yellow infringement last season.
Absolutely, but something is defo in the air re: stewarding . Precedent is out the window and rules are being made as we go, so who knows.
Totally. And you can understand that they don’t want to potentially affect the outcome of the championship, but the rules are the rules and should always be enforced consistently and fairly even if they have ramifications. If this was something that was a cut and dried standard penalty in the third race of the season, for example, it should still be exactly the same in the third from last race in the season. Outside factors such as who is affected and how it alters the bigger picture should not come into the thinking.
But by not doing anything are they also affecting the outcome of the championship?

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so obviously +3 penalty minimum for VER

I think that’s fair.

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Exactly. Like mercs wing discrepancy. Why not let that go too?

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siskue2005 wrote:
20 Nov 2021, 20:22


A collection of the footage from the various drivers passing Gasly

As always Alonso is a Wiley fox isn't he, he foresaw everything and slowed down... That would probably put him P3 =D>
Would love to see Alonso fight for a podium, he sounds like he really enjoyed the track, and he's been excellent all season long regularly fighting tough in the midfield.
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bonjon1979 wrote:
20 Nov 2021, 20:28
Exactly. Like mercs wing discrepancy. Why not let that go too?
Indeed, that also effected the championship

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siskue2005 wrote:
20 Nov 2021, 20:22


A collection of the footage from the various drivers passing Gasly

As always Alonso is a Wiley fox isn't he, he foresaw everything and slowed down... That would probably put him P3 =D>
That video really makes me think: why did it take so long to get any yellows there (or was that bc. the whole sector was yellow at that point? Ocon apparently thinks so too; yeah Alonso looks like being wiley. Well, we'll see tomorrow I guess.

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siskue2005 wrote:
20 Nov 2021, 20:22


A collection of the footage from the various drivers passing Gasly

As always Alonso is a Wiley fox isn't he, he foresaw everything and slowed down... That would probably put him P3 =D>
awesome mate!!

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bonjon1979 wrote:
20 Nov 2021, 20:28
Exactly. Like mercs wing discrepancy. Why not let that go too?


They asked the same question to Horner
It was hilarious what he answered :lol: