2022 Oracle | Red Bull Racing F1 Team

[Csmith1980]

once even accusing FIA that he is being punished due to the color of his skin - for which he had to apologise.

Why are you deliberately taking that comment out of context?

How have i done it? Especially since you did exactly what you are accusing me for.

Your comment wasn’t taken out of context.
Now, would you care too address my question?

[proteus]

Why are you deliberately taking that comment out of context?

How have i done it? Especially since you did exactly what you are accusing me for.

Your comment wasn’t taken out of context.
Now, would you care too address my question?

By what you chose to quote, then yes - you took one small part. And please do explain how i did it, since it disturbed you so much?

[Wouter]

What a nice atmosphere here again.

The previous Honda CEO has decided to pull the plug. None of Honda Racing F1 agreed and were very disappointed.
RB was also very sorry, because the collaboration went perfectly.

Honda and RB have now come up with a solution and that is to continue with the Honda PU, but then behind the scenes,
so that Honda will no longer be associated with F1, because the retired CEO did not want that.
RB pays for the PUs, because they are no longer a factory team, which they kind of used to be and
Honda doesn't want to see their logo on the cars and team clothing.

I am also very sorry that there is no longer a HONDA on the car and clothing, but it is their wish and I can only respect that.
Thanks @AtlasZX for this link. I encourage everyone to read this post again carefully.

https://global.honda/newsroom/news/2020 ... 2aeng.html

[Lefty8]

4 pages of bickering about where a logo should go.. Formula1 truly does deserve this sort of fan

Show car looks great. Awesome to have Oracle in F1, they did amazing things in America's Cup Yacht Racing

Now for the real car to show its radically different face at Barcelona

[Csmith1980]

How have i done it? Especially since you did exactly what you are accusing me for.

Your comment wasn’t taken out of context.
Now, would you care too address my question?

By what you chose to quote, then yes - you took one small part. And please do explain how i did it, since it disturbed you so much?

Taking a small exert from your post and concentrating on that, and taking something out of context, as you have done with Hamilton’s comment, are not the same thing.

[Marti_EF3]

Red bull didn't have any title sponsor in 2021, so they just ran Honda logos on their rear wing entirely for free. They didn't have to do it, but did it anyway out of respect for Honda. But yeah, screw them in every way imaginable just because you, some random dude on the nets with zero relevant information, believe they must run their logo over their entire car and honda will now take major offence due to this.
Lets not forget honda inspired livery in turkey last year, solely as a thank you gesture to honda. And again with the Acura branding in usa. And then end of season video where again they went out of their way in praising honda and wihsing they never left. Amount of homage payed to honda by red bull last year was ridicioulus, and to now call them egoistic is just outright dumb and ignorant. These same thoughts go to every poster in this thread who came here to smear this team just because they didn't like launch event and lack of honda branding.
Edit. And I just remembered how many times honda personnel where on the podium together with max and checo (from memory i know at least in austria and usa). Now lets see how many times mercedes engine guys will accompany lando or ricci up there.

Same as Honda giving PU for free for 2 teams. And I'm not talking about the past, but now.

It's just my.opinion, and you need to show at least respect to me, even if you don't like it. Random guy

It's hard to respect a random dude who is basing a team for not having a logo on the car without having a clue why the logo would be absent.
Explanations and possible reasons has been given several time now, but you still keep screaming about it, at this point that makes as much sense as screaming at the clouds.

It's funny you say random guy when you've been here less than me and have less posts here. But hey, I get the point. And anyway It's hard to respect people like you who judge people without knowing nothing, a thing I never did, even if you don't like my opinion.

Take it easy man. It's the last post I write about all this bullshit. Let's see how 2022 goes

[CMSMJ1]

Let's have some respect please.

Stop with the petty bickering and he said/she said

Thanks

[diffuser]

yeah, but not surprising. they are the least evolved people in f1 these days.

Care to explain? Least evolved people?

you know,

”what a mongol.. .. not my problem’’

debacle and attitude from Max. No accountability, never owns anything (like some of his fans) willing to deny being aggressive, but accuse others of being aggressive.

Christian Horner's behaviour in general last season, Mark is a classic.

just a toxic cesspool running an otherwise very talented and quality team.

CH and Marko just smell of harmful narcissism. Marko always uses his words to attack people, or to lie at times. Which he apologised for last season when RBR tried to lie. All the hocus-pocus and bs they would say in their interviews..

the entitled and toxic nature of the characters running that team, are the last types I would think of that would care about anything other than their own egos and narcissism. I wouldn't put good money on them thinking about what Honda did and deserve, especially given they didn't win the constructors as Honda deserved, but powered them to their only championship in the hybrid era, which was pivotal in keeping their golden boy.

Think you're getting a little emotional. RBR have gotten where they are cause they run this like a business. Do I agree with everything Horner and Marco do? No but there is no question Horner get's the job done. If you want to get your name on that car you need to pay. Honda are no longer paying this year so their name is gone. Simple as that. If they were giving the PU for, I'm sure their name would be on the car. Pretty sure this means RBR are paying Honda for the PU.

[Sieper]

Am I the only one who thinks the large yellow area so far back up the nose almost looks like a beak??

Yes it does, if the nose of he real RB18 will be as long as this FIA showcar the yellow doesn't quite work. Much of this area is mandated for 2022 right? I will be curious to see what they come up with.

[Just_a_fan]

Quick note to Red Bull team: Aston Martin shows how to do it properly and not just do a cynical exercise in sponsor glad-handing.

[Sieper]

It’s not ready yet. Probably won’t be until the very last moment.

[Wouter]

It’s not ready yet. Probably won’t be until the very last moment.

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Well, Max is at the factory today. What do you think he is testing?
Of course the car isn't ready, but they have the first version ready for testing, like all the other teams.

[Just_a_fan]

It’s not ready yet. Probably won’t be until the very last moment.

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Well, Max is at the factory today. What do you think he is testing?
Of course the car isn't ready, but they have the first version ready for testing, like all the other teams.

Probably meetings with his engineers. Could be a seat fitting. Could be some sim time. All are possible even if the car isn't finished.

[siskue2005]

It’s not ready yet. Probably won’t be until the very last moment.

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Well, Max is at the factory today. What do you think he is testing?
Of course the car isn't ready, but they have the first version ready for testing, like all the other teams.

What car testing? Do u mean simulator?

[Quantum]

Funny how many people are complaining about RBs launch and team not showing the respect/real car while most of those people spent all of 2020 defending Toto Wolff's shithousery (cars are very close, anyone can win) as just him doing his job.

It was a mock-up mockery Launch, regardless of what people said outside of this. Tenuously linking the 2 serves no purpose.