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JPower wrote:
17 Feb 2022, 16:05
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/reve ... e/8253654/

Looks like Ferrari came up with a way to homologate the nose section so they can change designs without needing to re-crash test.
I thought all teams were going to do this (so they can change FW design and its attachement to the nose whenever they want too)

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Blackout wrote:
17 Feb 2022, 17:32
JPower wrote:
17 Feb 2022, 16:05
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/reve ... e/8253654/

Looks like Ferrari came up with a way to homologate the nose section so they can change designs without needing to re-crash test.
I thought all teams were going to do this (so they can change FW design and its attachement to the nose whenever they want too)
Scarbs has pointed out that safety cells on the noses have always been small, they were just hiding behind the capes. I really don't see Ferrari doing anything too unique here.

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Blackout wrote:
17 Feb 2022, 17:28
It's possible they shaped the blue area like a boat (in to view) so the surrounding air will accelerate around it and lower the pressure there to enhance hot air extraction from the louvers
https://i.imgur.com/VbRsbTN.jpg

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In the past (thinking 2008), the cars had wings that did what the sidepod shape is doing. I think they are just using the sidepod shape to take place of the wings as much as the regulations allow. They really focused on a clear path of air to the rear wing.
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proteus wrote:
17 Feb 2022, 17:26
Super short nosecone. Is that the new thing with this new regs or only Ferrari did it?
Short how? Apart from being tapered at the front, it looks like most of the other noses we've seen so far, apart from the Alpha Tauri, and I don't think that render showed the real nose.

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Blackout wrote:
17 Feb 2022, 17:32
JPower wrote:
17 Feb 2022, 16:05
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/reve ... e/8253654/

Looks like Ferrari came up with a way to homologate the nose section so they can change designs without needing to re-crash test.
I thought all teams were going to do this (so they can change FW design and its attachement to the nose whenever they want too)
Seems like a solid play with new rules. And the FOM clearly stating they will make changes quickly to the rules if someone gets too far out of the performance window.

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Zynerji wrote:
17 Feb 2022, 17:36
Blackout wrote:
17 Feb 2022, 17:32
JPower wrote:
17 Feb 2022, 16:05
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/reve ... e/8253654/

Looks like Ferrari came up with a way to homologate the nose section so they can change designs without needing to re-crash test.
I thought all teams were going to do this (so they can change FW design and its attachment to the nose whenever they want too)
Seems like a solid play with new rules. And the FOM clearly stating they will make changes quickly to the rules if someone gets too far out of the performance window.
Only the structural part of the nose (crash structure) is subject to crash test, the front wing elements would not have been attached during testing

As long as changes made do not alter the crash structure then there would be no need for a retest for any changes to the no-structural front wing elements

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Sexy car hope its fast

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dren wrote:
17 Feb 2022, 17:34
Blackout wrote:
17 Feb 2022, 17:28
It's possible they shaped the blue area like a boat (in to view) so the surrounding air will accelerate around it and lower the pressure there to enhance hot air extraction from the louvers
https://i.imgur.com/VbRsbTN.jpg

Image
In the past (thinking 2008), the cars had wings that did what the sidepod shape is doing. I think they are just using the sidepod shape to take place of the wings as much as the regulations allow. They really focused on a clear path of air to the rear wing.
Wonder how much extra downforce there getting from the curved sidepods on cfd🤔

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Nice video showing a lot of small details not in the stationary pictures:


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the EDGE wrote:
17 Feb 2022, 17:41
Zynerji wrote:
17 Feb 2022, 17:36
Blackout wrote:
17 Feb 2022, 17:32


I thought all teams were going to do this (so they can change FW design and its attachment to the nose whenever they want too)
Seems like a solid play with new rules. And the FOM clearly stating they will make changes quickly to the rules if someone gets too far out of the performance window.
Only the structural part of the nose (crash structure) is subject to crash test, the front wing elements would not have been attached during testing

As long as changes made do not alter the crash structure then there would be no need for a retest for any changes to the no-structural front wing elements
If Piola is right, that is an unbelievably short crash structure, on par with the walrus-nosed Williams. Unless the interface between the impact structure and the aerodynamic fairing is more like a foot and shoe, as opposed to the flat bulkhead connection that we're used to. So the crash structure could extent all the way to second element of the wing, with the outer aerodynamic shell put on it like a shoe, for the lack of a better metaphor.
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That front wing is too shallow. Which means they must have found crazy amount of clean downforce at the front, or they haven't found much at the rear!
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F1Krof wrote:
17 Feb 2022, 18:00
That front wing is too shallow. Which means they must have found crazy amount of clean downforce at the front, or they haven't found much at the rear!
Or more likely it's not the wing they will be running at Barcelona testing at all

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F1Krof wrote:
17 Feb 2022, 18:00
That front wing is too shallow. Which means they must have found crazy amount of clean downforce at the front, or they haven't found much at the rear!
It's the photo angle. The wing is actually surprisingly mid loaded, like the Williams and the Sauber. Rounded nose profile like on the FW44 as well.
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this nose tip reminds me of a scorpions stinger
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Just_a_fan wrote:
17 Feb 2022, 16:28
Here's thought about the sombrero sidepods - if there's a wet race, those sidepods are going to become lakes whilst the car is sat on the grid. Then when it pulls away, that water is going to go backwards on to the rear end / rear tyres.

I realise wet race starts are relatively rare, but I wonder if they thought about it...
That extra weight should be good to get some traction off the line!
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